Depends on which old Brig you want since launch Brig was way too powerful.
The one without the armor bug and after she lost ability to stun through shields
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Frontline Brig is fine. Give her survival, barrierhp, damage, mobility, bigger+slower heals, regen, and better cooldowns.
Brig that provides OffTank tier peeling to DoubleBarrier, a composition without OffTanks, is a problem.
Because it prevents buffing Orisa and Sigma barriers to get us out of âRein or Loseâ for 100% or at-least the bottom 95% of the playerbase.
Brigâs personal survival+hitting stuff? Go for it.
Itâs the âpreventing a teammate from dying to close range burst attacksâ thatâs the issue.
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Can you please stop copy pasting the same responses to me, itâs very irritating.
Am I supposed to come up with a different game design with every person I talk to?
Also I donât remember responding to you at all today previously.
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Yeah there was a video on youtube that used the stats from Omnic Meta and showed that her healing stats were on par with Zen itâs just that when you added all the armour she could give on top of that, her stats in that regard were strong.
I think that Brig just before her rework would be less of an issue than the Brig we currently have.
What form of peeling should she have because I think she needs some form of peeling unless your fine with upping her lethality. Where the threat of dying to Brig is a concern for on coming flankers.
Because I already told you 50 times that Brig is meant to peel for her teammates and nobody needs a frontline hero that cannot peel but does 20 hps healing and 50 dps. Youâre effectively playing a poorly deigned Moira with even more limited range at that point and Moira is already the worst support. I just donât want to keep repeating the same response again and again.
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The way I see it.
Devs should fix Tanks, to avoid risking losing 10-20% of the playerbase to bad queue times, and poor matchmaking.
If they means 0.01% of the playerbase quits? Oh well.
Thatâs like comparing getting a cut on your finger, versus getting your entire arm chopped off.
So in other words you admit that you have absolutely no intention of making Brig players happy which means that you can stop responding to me since I am a Brig player and I want to enjoy playing her.
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I am not sure if you answered my question, but I do agree they need to find ways to make tanks more enjoyable to play. It comes down to if people think tanks should be stronger than any 1 dps or if they should be about equal where 1 dps can take down a tank on their own.
How is bash less than flash or trap which are on dps heroes that either donât have issues or arenât popular
Is less than lucio? With his aoe boop longer boop range and on a hero with mobility?
Moira, zen⌠Ana baptisteâŚ
There is no issue here. Notice, people arenât asking her to be meta. They want a specific playstyle. Which is literally going to put her in the same space as before. .5-2% pickrate.
Not meta. And not holding back metas like she isnât now
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Oh I intend in making +95% of Brig players happy.
A âSelf Reliant SoloQueue Friendlyâ Frontline Brawler Brig, would be very popular.
But roughly 0.01% of the total players represented by Peel focused Brig players would be unhappy.
In short, remove everything from your argument that can be blocked with defence matrix, and thereâs your problem.
Ana/Bap heals donât mean jack with a defence matrix up.
It doesnât. Are you dense or just acting like you are. The no peel Brig has absoluteraly nothing to offer. low damage output and low healing output. She would be the symmetra of the support roster where nobody wants one on their team in any situation. That wont make anybody happy.
Also stop puling % numbers from your backside unless you have sources to back them up. Itâs misleading and dishonest.
It wonât make Masters/GM Brig players happy.
Plat and below Brig players would love it though. I.e. The +95% of players where Brig hasnât ever had a strong pickrate.
Throw in some DPS who are flexing into the Healer role, who could easily replace every single âupsetâ player.
Umm no. Because contrary to popular beliefâŚbrig players arenât tank players by proxy. I like brig, because sheâs a support.
Brig isnât just a rein player on support. Otherwise sheâd be more popular. She was not and never has been.
Trap? Bump? People canât see when matrix is down?
Dva isnât even the crux of the last dive meta. Ball was. And he led dive with more tanks than dva did. Between him dva , winston , and zarya⌠Matrix isnât the factor here.
� You mean the year and a half where Brigitte was the most picked support in every elo with a positive win rate was a fever dream? Did I catch covid-18?
I am going to tell you that will SHOCK YOU. Nobody enjoys playing ineffective heroes which is what Brig without peel is. YOU ARE DESIGNING A HERO THAT SURVIVES BUT ACOMPLISHES NOTHING. Do you not get this, try to use your brain and expalin to me how anybody will find such a hero appealing.
Proof? Cuz the way I see it, even Bronze players picked up Ana cuz she is an effective healer. Meaning despite the mechanical requirements, they chose to pick her because she is effective. Almost like effectiveness >>>>>> your false ideas of what players want.
No dps player would flex onto Brig, a hero that has both low mechanical requirement, too low damage to get elims and now youâve taken out her positioning since she doesnât have to worry about peeling. Youâre really deep into your own delusions.
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I understand why brig came into this game in such a strong state but no matter how much you nerf her the only way to make her fun to play with as and against is if they
remove whip (doesnât have to be but I would just say this)
buff everything else
the problem is you gave her too much stuff
so something has to go
armor packs are good enough their already long range healing for a brawl hero.
if you remove whip that is 1 less CC in the game
she still can keep bash but she can have a stronger shield, stun, insp, hp etc
seccondly. donât let her give people armor
I donât care how long that lasts armor in its nature is broken
as a tank player I will say it
my 2 ideas for rally is either constant insp with buffing brig kind of making her a raid boss
or
she makes cooldowns shorter
I see how the seccond could break the game though