@ literally everyone calling today's ptr a mercy buff

[ThisLoser-11645]

Don’t bother replying to him, he’s just a forum troll seeking some attention.

I will admit I was just simply messing with you because there is only so many ways I can say something is a buff.

[NickySats-1518]

Even worse than blantant toxicity.

[Thrillho-11204]

No. I’ll leave YOU to it.

Ha!

don’t take anything I said in this thread seriously. Also, bye sis. We love you.

I think it’s weird that you’d leave off with an insult, but even doubly weird that it would be a female gendered insult. Why the implication that being referred to as a woman is insulting?

Very strange, especially for a self-appointed mediator.

[ƑaylenSøl-1922]

E R G O S T I L L A N E T N E R F

You’re really trying to grasp at straws here.

Alright so explain to me how going from 50 HPS in Valk to 60 all while getting that Valk faster is a “net nerf” to her current state?

If you factor in how she was prior to her last nerf (60 HPS to 50 HPS) she still gains Ult charge slower than when she did even with the upcoming buff (by a few percent, but still slower).

That’s how it is still mathmatically a net nerf if you consider where she was before to how she is going to be.

It is a Buff compared to her current state, but still a nerf to her state prior.

Thus why they are saying a Net Nerf.

By that logic everything is a net nerf when you compare it to triple res Valk.

Yes, Mercy is currently still in a nerfed state compared to before.

I don’t know the numbers well enough to know if she is in a better balanced state compared to pre-rework or not (Nor do I know if pre-rework would be balanced in current Overwatch since new Heroes, Reworks, and balance changes have happened since Mass Rez Mercy).

Just like current Hog is considered still nerfed since his Damage/Clip nerf. Even after his Take a Breather Buff.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

You’re overthinking it. No insults. Just a quick FYI and goodbye.

[ThisLoser-11645]

E R G O S T I L L A N E T N E R F

You’re really trying to grasp at straws here.

Alright so explain to me how going from 50 HPS in Valk to 60 all while getting that Valk faster is a “net nerf” to her current state?

If you factor in how she was prior to her last nerf (60 HPS to 50 HPS) she still gains Ult charge slower than when she did even with the upcoming buff (by a few percent, but still slower).

That’s how it is still mathmatically a net nerf if you consider where she was before to how she is going to be.

It is a Buff compared to her current state, but still a nerf to her state prior.

Thus why they are saying a Net Nerf.

By that logic everything is a net nerf when you compare it to triple res Valk.

Yes, Mercy is currently still in a nerfed state compared to before.

I don’t know the numbers well enough to know if she is in a better balanced state compared to pre-rework or not (Nor do I know if pre-rework would be balanced in current Overwatch since new Heroes, Reworks, and balance changes have happened since Mass Rez Mercy).

Just like current Hog is considered still nerfed since his Damage/Clip nerf. Even after his Take a Breather Buff.

Okay but when she was first brought in with that Valk Res crap she was incredibly over powered. The only way she will no longer be net nerfed is if she was made even more powerful so using net nerf as a basis to her “not being at prime” is terrible.

[Justin-17714]

it doestn have to be towards a person to be spreading negativity ergo toxicity

[ƑaylenSøl-1922]

E R G O S T I L L A N E T N E R F

You’re really trying to grasp at straws here.

Alright so explain to me how going from 50 HPS in Valk to 60 all while getting that Valk faster is a “net nerf” to her current state?

If you factor in how she was prior to her last nerf (60 HPS to 50 HPS) she still gains Ult charge slower than when she did even with the upcoming buff (by a few percent, but still slower).

That’s how it is still mathmatically a net nerf if you consider where she was before to how she is going to be.

It is a Buff compared to her current state, but still a nerf to her state prior.

Thus why they are saying a Net Nerf.

By that logic everything is a net nerf when you compare it to triple res Valk.

Yes, Mercy is currently still in a nerfed state compared to before.

I don’t know the numbers well enough to know if she is in a better balanced state compared to pre-rework or not (Nor do I know if pre-rework would be balanced in current Overwatch since new Heroes, Reworks, and balance changes have happened since Mass Rez Mercy).

Just like current Hog is considered still nerfed since his Damage/Clip nerf. Even after his Take a Breather Buff.

Okay but when she was first brought in with that Valk Res crap she was incredibly over powered. The only way she will no longer be net nerfed is if she was made even more powerful so using net nerf as a basis to her “not being at prime” is terrible.

Or if they Buff everyone so that Mercy in that state is considered balanced.

Nerf no one.

Only Buffs.

/s

[ThisLoser-11645]

E R G O S T I L L A N E T N E R F

You’re really trying to grasp at straws here.

Alright so explain to me how going from 50 HPS in Valk to 60 all while getting that Valk faster is a “net nerf” to her current state?

If you factor in how she was prior to her last nerf (60 HPS to 50 HPS) she still gains Ult charge slower than when she did even with the upcoming buff (by a few percent, but still slower).

That’s how it is still mathmatically a net nerf if you consider where she was before to how she is going to be.

It is a Buff compared to her current state, but still a nerf to her state prior.

Thus why they are saying a Net Nerf.

By that logic everything is a net nerf when you compare it to triple res Valk.

Yes, Mercy is currently still in a nerfed state compared to before.

I don’t know the numbers well enough to know if she is in a better balanced state compared to pre-rework or not (Nor do I know if pre-rework would be balanced in current Overwatch since new Heroes, Reworks, and balance changes have happened since Mass Rez Mercy).

Just like current Hog is considered still nerfed since his Damage/Clip nerf. Even after his Take a Breather Buff.

Okay but when she was first brought in with that Valk Res crap she was incredibly over powered. The only way she will no longer be net nerfed is if she was made even more powerful so using net nerf as a basis to her “not being at prime” is terrible.

Or if they Buff everyone so that Mercy in that state is considered balanced.

Nerf no one.

Only Buffs.

/s

The days when a Mei M1ing you for 2 seconds kills you instantly.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Again, we’re talking about a balance change. It is not toxic to call a balance change dumb.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Well, this thread has gone places. How’s everyone doing.

[WildElements-1760]

All I see with these posts is a bunch of Lucios inside many squares.

[ƑaylenSøl-1922]

E R G O S T I L L A N E T N E R F

You’re really trying to grasp at straws here.

Alright so explain to me how going from 50 HPS in Valk to 60 all while getting that Valk faster is a “net nerf” to her current state?

If you factor in how she was prior to her last nerf (60 HPS to 50 HPS) she still gains Ult charge slower than when she did even with the upcoming buff (by a few percent, but still slower).

That’s how it is still mathmatically a net nerf if you consider where she was before to how she is going to be.

It is a Buff compared to her current state, but still a nerf to her state prior.

Thus why they are saying a Net Nerf.

By that logic everything is a net nerf when you compare it to triple res Valk.

Yes, Mercy is currently still in a nerfed state compared to before.

I don’t know the numbers well enough to know if she is in a better balanced state compared to pre-rework or not (Nor do I know if pre-rework would be balanced in current Overwatch since new Heroes, Reworks, and balance changes have happened since Mass Rez Mercy).

Just like current Hog is considered still nerfed since his Damage/Clip nerf. Even after his Take a Breather Buff.

Okay but when she was first brought in with that Valk Res crap she was incredibly over powered. The only way she will no longer be net nerfed is if she was made even more powerful so using net nerf as a basis to her “not being at prime” is terrible.

Or if they Buff everyone so that Mercy in that state is considered balanced.

Nerf no one.

Only Buffs.

/s

The days when a Mei M1ing you for 2 seconds kills you instantly.

Or Reaper is hitscan without falloff damage.

[Zaehelhm-1222]

At least their clearly trying to make Mercy better

I find it kind of inverse that a handful of Mercy mains are highly vocal and negative(Towards Blizzard) even when their hero gets a buff spamming the forums with thread after thread.

One more reason I respect Bastion mains that much more. Despite playing the most ignored/neglected hero I don’t see them spamming the forums with threads about him. No, I see them keeping it contained to a handful of civlized threads about him, most notably @ChibiFox thread that has of 16 thousand comments and almost 500 likes and it’s not even a locked thread since they keep things calm kver there.

[Megadodo-11847]

I said it’s not a buff since I’m not labelling it as a buff but rather, a revert. For others, it is a buff but is not a revert since they’re not labelling it as such. I really don’t see the issue here.

the issue is you could call it whatever you want, but you’re wrong (and ergo misleading others) to call it a revert, a word that has a specific meaning that doesnt apply here at all

[ThisLoser-11645]

Well shoot I just realized it is almost midnight and I told myself I was gonna go to bed an hour and a half ago.

I am such a terrible person no wonder why my mom calls me a loser.

[WildElements-1760]

At least their clearly trying to make Mercy better

But… Do or do not. There is no try.

Also, if this is them trying, I’m not confident in their balancing abilities regarding Mercy. Then again, that started like a year ago.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Bastion is invisible. I literally almost forgot that he existed once. . Knowing the devs, they probably forgot about him permanently.

[B0tMelon-1504]

everyone: her ult is legit the worst ult in the whole support catagory right now
overwatch: ok its better now
everyone: why doesnt it make us insta win? scam

[Kounosuke-11392]

They’re really not trying at all. They’re merely trying to negate the complaints for a short amount of time by not fixing anything, they nerfed her and then reverted half of said nerf. They’re either making work for themselves to undo at a later date. or they’re just not trying.