@ literally everyone calling today's ptr a mercy buff

Dimentive-2259 · October 24, 2018, 5:11am

Aria Rose has no idea what she’s talking about.

Of course it’s a buff. This is just clickbait.
However, it’s not nearly enough. Mercy will still be the worst healer in the game.

Blizzard really thinks that changing some of the characters we’ve complained about the most in extremely minor ways will shut us up. *sigh*

Serpenvio-1420 · October 24, 2018, 5:13am

Also yeah this is a buff. But it’s a buff that puts a bandaid on an unneeded nerf. Thus why it’s despised. Mercy’s healing did not need to be nerfed. BS rez on cooldown is what needed to be removed but Blizz refuses to lose their precious CD rez and would rather break Mercy’s kit to accommodate for it and since Rez has to be made into an utter chore to use to balance it this whole rework is rage inducing.

Dimentive-2259 · October 24, 2018, 5:14am

To put it briefly, it’s a buff to live Mercy, but she’s worse than she was a few months ago, before they nerfed her healing output.

Awkward-1942 · October 24, 2018, 5:16am

Well no duh.

Do people actually expect to get Double Res Mercy back?

Serpenvio-1420 · October 24, 2018, 5:17am

No? Honestly I just wanted 60hps mercy with an instant rez in Valk (as in if rez is up it’s instant in valk). That’s it. I was okay with her state before the health nerf. My only issue was Valk was boring.

Dimentive-2259 · October 24, 2018, 5:18am

No, we just expect her not to suck. These changes are so minor that they barely make a difference. Mercy will still be the worst support hero in the game.

Here are my ideas for fixing Mercy (from this thread). They involve removing Resurrect altogether.

Let’s fix Overwatch! List of every hero and how balanced they are, along with rebalance suggestions for every unbalanced hero

First of all, replace Resurrect with a different ability. I get that it’s an iconic ability and all, but it’s impossible to properly balance since it’s the only ability in the game that affects players who have died. This is why Mercy has never been balanced; she’s always been either underpowered (pre-rework and currently) or overpowered (right now, after all the nerfs to her). And need I mention the nerf to her healing? Her healing is so slow that she can’t even outheal Winston’s Tesla Cannon (AKA Tickle Gun); Mercy heals for 50 health per second now, while Winston’s Tesla Cannon’s damage is 60 damage per second.

I highly disagree with people who say that Resurrect as an Ultimate should come back. Instead, here is my idea:

Replace Resurrect with an ability called Miracle Worker.
Description of Miracle Worker:

Type: Single target buff
Range: 30 meters (same as that of both Guardian Angel and Zarya’s Projected Barrier)
Duration: 3 seconds (1 second longer than Zarya’s Projected Barrier) or until lethal damage is taken
Cooldown: 15 seconds (5 seconds longer than Zarya’s Projected Barrier)

Effect 1: Buff duration expires, and the target is healed for 100 HP.
Effect 2: Prevent death when target takes damage that would normally kill them and sets the target’s health to 50 HP.

Mercy places a spell on a targeted ally. This buff will trigger an effect after 3 seconds or when the target takes lethal damage.

If the buff expires with no lethal damage taken, the target is healed for 100 HP.

If the target takes lethal damage, death is prevented, and the target’s HP is set to 50 HP.

This idea is not mine. It’s by YouTuber Blame The Controller. (Source video.)

This is an ability that could save someone from death, regardless of the amount of damage taken, just like Zarya’s Projected Barrier. However, Mercy wouldn’t directly benefit from this like Zarya does, the cooldown would be longer, and the buff would also last a little longer as well. The target would also be healed. If the target takes damage that would normally kill them, they don’t die and is instead immediately healed for 50 HP. If they don’t take any damage that would kill them during the three-second period, their health is instead set to 50 HP. Keep in mind that this wording is intentional: Ana’s Biotic Grenade would be able to stop the healing of 100 health if the target takes no lethal damage, but it wouldn’t be able to stop the second effect where the target’s health is set to 50 HP (otherwise, they would immediately die).

Due to the long cooldown, Mercy players would have to prioritize when to use this ability, even more than Zarya players and Projected Barrier. She couldn’t just use it willy-nilly. If a target is saved from death, they are healed, but the amount that they are healed for is so low that they would need to be healed by Mercy or another healer afterwards; otherwise, they’d likely die right after the buff is over if the enemy is focusing them.

Replacing Resurrect would not be enough, however. Her healing output should be reverted to 60 healing per second, and Valkyrie should be updated to work with this hypothetical new ability. For example, during Valkyrie, Miracle Worker could heal for 200 health, instead of 100, when no lethal damage is taken, and the target’s health could be set to 100, instead of 50, if lethal damage is taken.
Alternatively, the healing numbers could remain the same, but the cooldown for Miracle Worker could be reset, or she could get another charge, just like what used to happen with Resurrect when she used Valkyrie.

Awkward-1942 · October 24, 2018, 5:22am

She’s already better than Moira, and getting a healing nerf revert and a buff on top of that will make her even better.

She’s not as good as Ana, sure, but that doesn’t mean she’s weak. It just means Ana is busted.

When Ana gets nerfed, or other heroes get changed to make the meta more Dive/Sniper orientated again, Mercy will come right back as Ana gets pushed out.

Dimentive-2259 · October 24, 2018, 5:24am

She’s not better than Moira. Moira outheals Mercy by far, and her Ultimate is actually engaging and makes an impact; plus, she can heal allies and damage enemies at the same time.

Moira can also use her movement ability and escape without relying on her teammates. Fade is amazing.

Ana doesn’t need any more than a slight nerf to Nano Boost’s healing output. Mercy needs actual, proper, impactful buffs.

MonoSodium-2467 · October 24, 2018, 5:27am

You will never be her friend OP.
She just uses you for views.

Jerant-1609 · October 24, 2018, 5:28am

I thought Mercy mains are trying to be all positive and not toxic, but this is incredibly toxic. You’re going against the whole Mercy mantra aren’t you?

Neopets-11146 · October 24, 2018, 5:30am

Whether you call it a revert or a buff, they still made something better.
Hence, a buff.
They’re just getting picky about the name and crying about the ultimate.

Sinfonie-21757 · October 24, 2018, 5:36am

You cant decide which support is the strongest only by looking at their healing per game

Its not, its really not
Its as statisfying as Valk, the only diffrence is that you have to aim (woohoo!) and it tickles enemies but Coalessence doesnt give you the “wow, I jus did an ameizing job right there”-feeling either
What makes Moira so much more statisfying is the speed with which you can build up your ult, its not the ult itself. Proper use of her orbs and great knowledge of when to heal and when to damage can let you build up 200% Ult charge in a single teamfight and thats pretty much where most statisfaction comes from

but she can do it only once every 6 second while Mercy can bunny hop around her team 24/7 dodging a Tracer chasing you for a whole teamfight. If the same Tracer tracks your Moiras fade your Moira is dead
Mercy and Moira do have 2 completly diffrent ways of moving around the map, you cant compare them

She doesnt. They should take a look at rezz, how they can remove the cooldown and reduce the casttime without making it OP again but apart from that I think shes pretty balanced
Her main issue is that 2 second cast time that takes away all her momentum - the very core of her kit - but without it she would end up being OP again ~

Dimentive-2259 · October 24, 2018, 5:37am

You’re wrong. Can someone else step in for me, please? I’m so tired of typing the same things over and over.

FledgeSRondo-1441 · October 24, 2018, 5:52am

I was shocked there was already a video about the PTR Mercy changes so when I clicked the video in curiosity my instant reaction when I heard the voice was “UGGGHHHHH not this whiney girl again.”

Freakybih-1654 · October 24, 2018, 5:54am

I like how they are putting power into her ult… She seems balanced now but doesn’t fix the fact that rez on E feels awful and shes still boring to play.

Creati-11923 · October 24, 2018, 6:05am

What the heck, it is a buff. A change can be a buff and a revert simultaneously, it’s literally a net gain on her current live kit, therefore it is a buff. I thought that was fire-is-hot obvious?
Even if you want to ugly nitpick about the words used, it still is a buff. the 15% ult charge gain rate affects her damage boost and pistol too, this is not a revert in any regard at all

I understand this not being the change mercy mains wanted, but like? Come on y’all this is embarrassing

Berserk-11339 · October 24, 2018, 8:25am

Thank you for showing you lack both the ability to read and the ability to write.

I mentioned that she was a must pick for the year leading up to her 50HPS nerf. I said that a lot of the people currently playing the game were not even around for her mass res. I said nothing about her state before the revert which I know to be weak. Good job destroying an “arguement” I didn’t make! Compelling stuff

TKatastrophe-1721 · October 24, 2018, 8:29am

Oh my god.
IT’S A BUFF
IT’S. A. BUFF.
Her healing has increased during Valk
Valk now charges faster
I don’t understand how it’s not a buff.

Berserk-11339 · October 24, 2018, 8:42am

I mean she was must pick for a year with 60HPS. The +12 months directly before her nerf to 50HPS.

I agree it was bad game design (but this is OW so I mean it’s kinda expected) to buff Ana while giving Mercy a nerf. I would have liked to see how just the buff to Ana would have played out. Frankly I think she’s over buffed since her ult is effectively 450 instant HP. Would prefer baseline 150-200 base to encourage more use on damage than tanks.

That said I’m sure it’s on their minds that if they go to 60HPS it could be enough to make her must pick or wreck the pretty balanced use of supports (outside Ana) that we have now. Everyone can second slot which is probably a big improvement in their eyes even though having Ana as a must pick obviously isn’t as good as having no must-picks. Given it took so many nerfs to move her out of that they probably are nervous. That’s why I think people expected 55HPS first to test the waters. Her announced buff is like a slightly worse version of 55HPS. She will gain ult faster than a move to 55HPS (10% extra charge if 55HPS at best, but probably closer to 6%) and heal higher in Valk but heal lower out of Valk than if a 55HPS change had been moved in.

I expect she will get another small buff if her win and pick rates don’t pick up after this change (and I don’t they will shift much after the first week of people trying her out). That said I don’t think it’s irresponsible for them to move lightly and try to avoid creating the same support meta they had for so long.

As for the mercy rework to begin with. Maybe you’re right and it was just a vocal minority that caused it. Maybe they didn’t like it from a gameplay standpoint. The only time I’ve seen it much in action was a video of a 2CP game where there was literally 5 min straight overtime because of mass res. Frankly a multi res sounds pretty amazing - like to the point that I think with how much better players are now it would be even better than a CD res if the comp players now got it.

But maybe first pick reversion with no ult charge required is always gonna be better than that. Either it would be very very strong or as people here argue she’d be a throw pick like she was before. If it’s the second and you’re arguing for a design that makes the hero less viable but that you personally enjoyed more it would be similar to a Torb or Sym main demanding a revert… except like instead of that happening once a month it would be 3 times a day. I guess you can keep holding out hope, but I doubt they’ll budge for a couple hundred players.

Bids-11718 · October 24, 2018, 9:09am

Just because it is a “Partial revert” does not mean it is not a buff.
The numbers got tweaked for the better therefore

IT’S A BUFF

be thankful that you got a buff after only a month of complaining. Reaper got one after almost 2 years of being F-tier and Roadhog mains have been almost completely ignored by a majority of players and devs for a year and 5 months.