Literal Bias Towards Mercy. (PLEASE READ)

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This is not my argument. It’s clear evidence however that hide&rez existed and it wasn’t some nonsense like you claim. Don’t change my argument. :rofl:

The fact that many Mercies exploited the SR by doing hide&rez - this is also well-documented.

There was never a case where Mercy didn’t get no SR at all, stop making stuff up please as you go along. Also hide&rez existed in Season 1-3 as well.

I’m not whining about anything. I couldn’t care less about your degree and the fact that you have to bring real life credentials only makes it more amusing for me. :grinning: Especially considering all your points are wrong so far.

I’m not whining about anything but nice try.

You don’t think a PR responce to a balance change is important to be worded politically correct and properly from a company like Blizzard? My, my I really have to question what PR degree you got and where you got it from. :rofl:

Where?

Already addressed this - PR and politically correct statements are irrelevant in the context of the situation.

The other statement is that Mercy is fine and they do not plan to bring Mass Rez back.

Strong and output are two completely different values. Sorry by man but I’m very specific and concrete with my definitions. :wink:

Still a correct one.

When you rework anything. Fun and balance are two separate things. Fun is subjective.

Mass Rez was unhealthy and bad mechanic, bringing back is not a step forward.

Because we are talking about supports and because this was OP original comparison. Maybe you actually need to look it up. :rofl: You wanna talk about Reaper or Symmetra, be my guest.

Nothing conspiracy about it, the Reverts themselves even admitted to having a Discord once information leaked out. :rofl:

Because you are the one claiming conspiracy theory when I have clear evidence that they push an agenda.

Not my point, whatsoever. Nice try to change the argument again. :rofl:

You need to read carefully then what I write. :rofl:

I actually legitimately agree with you on this. A 100%, this is actually the first time you say something that’s actually correct. And I would back you up a 100% on it as well. Give the Reverts their megathread back and prevent it from being locked and just delete blatant troll/antagonistic posts.

I got falsely reported for a “real life thread” and had to get a moderator to prove me innocent. I can quote the posts and provide link if you want. Numerous people have had the experience as well otherwise the Gatekeeping thread wouldn’t exist.

“No u” rhetoric again. :rofl:

Except it’s not just Sprinkles and you know it.

I just did.

Assuming the devs don’t play their own game, nice! :rofl: The delusion is real. I also play Mercy so by that logic I’m right. Good to know.

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No, it’s clear evidence that some people THINK it existed. Which we already knew.

And most of those same people I have literally seen fail to pay any attention to a Mercy clearly not hiding and then still cry that she was hiding.

If that’s the best you got, sorry.

Clearly “no SR” was a figure of speech. But there were numerous reports of her getting very little SR no matter how well she played.

Also, people still exaggerated what they thought was “hiding”.

Then don’t bring up whether or not someone has “heard of” something.

Ignoring the rest of your drivel.

You clearly are, but please continue being childish.

Who do they need to be “PR” for? The people whom you claim are the vast majority that “agree” that Mercy was broken?

Again: if your argument is that they will flat out say something that isn’t true for the sake of “PR”, then what reason do we have to believe anything they say?

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The quote in the patch notes when Mercy was reworked.

I can’t win. Any evidence I have you’ll just call PR.

Which has no relevance to Mass Rez being removed.

So, fun is ok to balance off of when you rework someone?

Based off of feelings. Feelings don’t matter.

You said that your argument was correct in the context of Ana and Mercy. That suggests that your argument only applies to them.

That’s not what I’m talking about though. You said that Mercy mains have an agenda (which I think is funny coming from the person who made “the knights of Undertone”, or whatever it’s called).

Because they have a discord group?

You seemed to have an issue with them communicating off of the forums. I’m showing you how ridiculous that is.

Don’t mention it if you don’t have an issue with it. Also, you included “upvoting threads” and “false flagging posts” in the same sentence, which I assumed meant you thought they were both issues.

It also benefits Blizzard because it makes it easier to ignore Mercy feedback!

Please do.

The gatekeeping thread has so many issues with it.

No, I don’t. To me, it just seems like Sprinkles complaining about Mercy mains.

Where?

Nice twisting my argument.

The devs aren’t exactly going to have 300+ hours on Mercy, while playing at GM level, are they?

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Disclaimer: The OP of that thread got suspended, most likely for toxic comments being said by him that were targeted at Mercy players.

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It’s not bias, it’s just “Mercy is no skill hero” kind of mindset among DPS players, that are so proud of their “mechanical skill” that their ego can reach orbit.

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That’s a very touchy topic.

The character is balanced statistically ONLY when the perfect winrate is with the perfect pick-rate.

To which ana’s pickrate sucked up until now, Symm and Torb have like 60% winrates but 0.49% pickrates, doesnt make them OP.

Anything from 2.8-5% is a good pickrate and anything from 49-51% is a good winrate.

Mercy has had a pickrate of 7-9% for a while…

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I’m assuming you’re talking about Titanium saying he has his own discord… More than half of the people on said discord are inactive forum users. :confused:

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anyway, found the vid, here’s a time stamp, mercy HIDING in the freaking main entrance, pro awareness yall, gg

also, a screenshot for your convenience, you’re welcome.
“hiding”
[remove spaces pls ty]

https: //imgur. com/a/kWiLCdy

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Then you outright admit that this assertion is inconsistent:

And now you need to articulate why it is inconsistent in this manner, and why that inconsistency is allowed.

Or is it just convenience for your arguments? “These rules apply, except when I don’t want them to”?

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Did you really just write an essay over some random persons comment on twitter?

… just reply to them on twitter

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You don’t have anything mate. Hide&Mass Rez was a thing, provided you with plenty of evidence. The SR abuse is well documented. What have you got? :rofl:

Evidence please.

This is very well documented, sorry.

Personal attacks, ooohkay.

:rofl: Clearly you have no clue about how corporations work and how they need to phrase their statements.

Already addressed that.

Because it is PR…

Which means they support and standby the claim mass rez was a bad and unhealthy mechanic.

Fun and balance are two separate statements.

Not the case mate, been through this already.

We are talking about them, haven’t you been paying attention? :rofl:

Uh-lala, my reputation precedes me. You conveniently miss out that in my humorous thread I also requested for the megathread to be given back, something we both agree on. Makes sense, no?

:rofl: No, not because they have a discord group.

I don’t have an issue with them communicating off the forums. I’m making an observation that they do, which means that they can hive-mind the forums. Something that they denied for a long time until it was revealed :rofl:

They ignore it anyway and rightfully so. In the mean time, you continue to spam and that spam impacts negatively everyone else.

Here you go:

“Hahahahahahahah. A real life threat? It was a joke about his comment:”

“LMAO, a real life threat, ahhahaahhaahha. Hence my comment that it’s nice to know his permanent address. I’m not referring to his real life address :rofl: I’m literally in tears. The character assassination is just beyond me. You are literally proving everything I’m saying right in front of everyone’s eyes.”

This little stunt got me silenced until a moderator looked at the evidence and repealed the silence and proved me innocent.

Don’t think it has any issues, more importantly it proves a point. And that point is that it’s not anecdotal evidence but multiple people experienced harassment from the very same group.

I guess all the other people that up-voted it just did it randomly.

Hey you do it all the time, just simply going with your tactics. :rofl: The devs have more data that anyone period, and I would trust them over a Mercy one-trick any day.

Not surprised, the thread got falsely reported and a moderator had to step in. Your sub-group has an amazing track record of false reporting people.

Again, nice tactic to plug a sentence out and bring it without context. You guys literally do this silly tactic all the time. :rofl:

The original poster was comparing tanks to supports. You cannot compare a tank to support, it’s literally two entirely different roles. Nice try but context matters. The poster literally did the same silly thing you do - it compared Ana and Mercy to the interaction between Pharah and Junkrat. Which is basically flat out wrong, you have yet to refute my very original comment in this thread, an argument I have presented to you multiple times and you conveniently forget or pluck sentences out of context so you can “defeat” an argument I never make. :rofl:

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post proof, also, watch the vid i linked, have a nice day~!

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Here you go :kissing_heart:

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edit: my bad, the quoting format on this forum is atrocious, gimme a min. to reply, in the meantime, go watch that seagull video, have fun!

spoiler alert: another hiding spot is in the main choke on Lijiang, shocking, right? i always heard hiding in plain sight was good, never bothered to try so myself…might have gotten to GM instead of just plat back when Mercy still had mass res :frowning:

edit 2: one of the comments says “so that after they blow everything on your allies,” like, that’s literally the enemy teams fault for blowing everything WITHOUT GETTING THE MAIN HEALER OUT OF THE WAY.

this one tho, i gotta agree, what the everliving heck was this…both this mercy and that genji that couldn’t blade her like…i don’t even wanna watch this, disgusting. i did however go to that person’s channel and, while i might be wrong, seems they swapped to playing other heroes when they ranked up…suspicious… [also, montages are bad examples of anything, like, anyone can look godlike or w/e in montages, seriously, come on now]

anyway, most of these are just speculation, there is literally no proof of people using it “90% of the time”, there’s is just a few comments here and there and few montages that prove what exactly? 20 people hiding in 20 matches? compelling …

i still do agree that instant cast AND invincibilty were an overkill that made people frustrated but, they could have just given her dmg reduction or something and made it so that you could CC her out of res…

either way, Valk was a miss…

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That’s a bad mentality there, each hero should have strengths and weaknesses. To say that one should be a universally superior choice is not only short sighted, its dangerous.

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Sure thing amigo. I’ve already watched the Seagull video, it’s even referenced in the post I gave you. :smiley:

Why?

Also one is not universally superior when one has mechanical skill as a variable.

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aside from you being obnoxious, are you also gonna ignore the fact that i screenshotted AND marked in red the Mercy in the doorway, just as Seagull is crying how she’s hiding, i quote “in their spawn”? do you want me to zoom it in?

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A universally superior choice limits choices. Which inherently stagnates the game, no one really cares now as Ana is new, but imagine if Ana was required in any pro scene ever? Than imagine that for the high skill dps, Tracer/Widow maker, than imagine that for the high skill tanks. Now you have a game that has stagnated and is no longer evolving. Not only is it boring to play, its boring to watch.

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you mean, like how people got bored with dive? x) cause it rly sounds like that lol

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Except she is not universally superior choice because mechanical skill is a variable. So your entire argument falls apart.

Ana was required in the pro scene for a few seasons when Mercy wasn’t OP. I guess you missed a few metas man. :rofl: