My buddy played a ton of tank before OW2. Hasn’t touched it since. He kinda follows the 6v6 discourse. I don’t think he would stay beyond the first week or so. I believe he’s just moved on from OW, though he hasn’t said that, although he hasn’t expressed a ton of excitement either.
I feel like there’s some context missing. What did you do exactly? and what exactly are they responding to?
Right now, I’m just guessing that you ran a poll or something on Twitter, but I don’t see how this would be new information. Other people have done this before as well and gotten the same results (unless this isn’t a poll).
I think the thing that we should be focusing on here is ‘Fun Factor’.
6v6 would allow for the ‘Fun Factor’ of the tank role to come back. As it stands now, the Tank is the single most influential character in the roster, and it can feel pretty cruddy to have to try to work around tank diff.
Counterswapping is painful, it’s a real issue, and it can’t be combatted in the 5v5 setup. You absolutely need 2 tanks to make it fun to be a tank again. This way, counterpicking isn’t such a big deal. So what if one of the 2 tanks directly counters you? You still counter their other tank, and the tank not being countered can do their job.
Granted, tanks would need to be toned down quite a bit to make this work, but I think overall this is where the game should have been from the get go, this whole single tank being the main determining factor of win/loss is just bonkers.
“Oh no, hundreds out of tens of thousands of tank players would come back if their preferred way of playing the game were to return. Better kowtow to their demands!”
Anecdotally, with my friend group there are 6 of us.
That alone is something that make us all look forward to trying 6v6, because none of us played as a 6 stack.
Only one person in that group did I play with back in OW1.
That said, the one I have been playing with for years and I used to duo on tank.
Now he plays tank and I almost entirely play tank in Mystery Heroes, queueing as DPS/Support when playing QP, regardless of whether my friend has selected tank.
The others in the group, one is a pure support main who will stay that way regardless of format.
One is a support main who used to be a Zarya main.
Another is a DPS/support main who used to primarily play Rein with the Zarya main.
The last is a Hanzo main who used to also play Sigma.
So, in my group, 5/6 are comfortable playing tank in a duo-tanking context.
I’ll occasionally play tank.
One who still primarily plays tank but kind of hates it.
3 who have swapped roles because they don’t like solo tanking.
The other day the 100% support main was spectating some of our matches as a 5 stack in MH.
Our former Rein main randed Rein, I randed DVA, my tank main in OW1.
We had a blast, steamrolling through them.
She commented that she’d absolutely love to be a support with our duo tanking.
I’ve duo tanked with all of them in MH, and have enjoyed basically all combinations.
Hell, the Hanzo main can be difficult to work with, when he’s playing DPS, but when he’s randed Sigma in MH while I’ve been a tank, we synergise well.
I had no issue back in OW1, hitting flex and just accepting whatever role it gave me.
I want that back.
I mean, looking at it through Blizz’ eyes, they might care about the general health of the game as opposed to whether tanks are enjoying themselves. I hate to always bring up queue times, but they are a consideration.
its not a new restaurant bro, its a restaurant that already closed due to not enough customers. theyre attempting to reopen it but they have to exceed whatever they did last time. and many potential customers already said their goodbyes.
I think this is a pedantic way of looking at the issue. If 100 people stand up, think of the other thousands who don’t stand up?
Do you personally disagree with the 5v5 vs 6v6 debate? Do you think 5v5 is fine where it stands now? Please don’t take this as an attack towards you, it’s not meant to be, I’m just genuinely curious why you’d paraphrase in such a demeaning way?
If you find the game to be perfectly fine the way it is, I’d have to ask if you’d ever played 6v6 prior? If so, what are your takes on the 5v5 vs 6v6 debate?
Thats fine, but keep in mind that people who like 5v5 dont usually come to the forums to complain or praise about it. Not to mention that the OW1 playerbase is not a concern anymore. The game works without them good enough.
Sure, people would play tank, but for how long? How dedicated are they? What is the percentage that feels the same way? How will OW2 players react when confronted with the old problems?
Keep in mind that we need to DOUBLE the tank playerbase, to not get the queue times of OW1.
Not to mention the power loss of the tank role in general when they need to nerf every single tank.
I can definitely relate to the feelings they shared. Being the only Tank on the team can be pretty stressful and a little lonely. Im excited for 6v6 RQ to return. I believe it will have a good, positive impact on OW2.