Do not care if it can be abused, it makes the games so pointless to carry on, and one team gets “free SR”. It’s just stupid.
Either you automatically make it a draw, which would be fair, keep the game stats, but have it so no one loses SR except for the quitter.
Also so that it does not end right away, like say one team is about to end, it has a timer that gives the leaver a chance to return, like 4 minutes. So basically you can’t just leave when it looks like your team is gunna lose and end the match.
Basically put in safeguards for people that do not quit, but also safeguards in so it can’t be abused. I just do not understand how Blizzard have no thought of simple things like this.
Overall after all this time, the real major problem with Overwatch is not dominating metas, it’s the fact that toxicity and leavers is worse because of role lock.
Thing is, leavers don’t even need to be an issue in Competitive as the solution to the problem already exists in other game modes - backfill.
Backfill would not only completely solve the problem of leavers but would also help reduce queue times because you wouldn’t be dumping 11 players back into the queue when someone leaves or disconnects from a match.
I can’t believe people still believe backfill in COMP is a good idea. Imagine you are queuing for DPS and you wait 7 minutes. You get pulled into a game that is halfway over. You have no idea who the people you are playing with. You have no idea if you should counter the enemy. But more than anything, backfill would take away emersion from comp it would completely ruin the idea of a strategy game if some random guy joins a already ongoing game.
I can’t believe people still believe backfill in COMP is a bad idea. Imagine you are queuing for DPS and you wait 7 minutes. You opt in to a game that is halfway over. You get an idea who the people you are playing with by a quick look at the team screen. You get an idea if you should counter the enemy by communicating with your new teammates. But more than anything, backfill would add to the immersion of comp it would completely bolster the idea of a strategy game by having a random guy join an already ongoing game.
Guy who left coulde did that for purpose, maybe enemy team was steam rolling thema nd his team was toxic and flamed him because of his performance so he left. Then smurf will be backfilled who will completely turn the game over. How is that fair vs enemy team?
Or you will have leaver who want to be come back, but he cant because someone backfilled, then what?
Backfill works in QP because it is QP, even there it suck because if you drop from game by any chance, you cant join back because your place was already filled.
Backfill in comp has too many flaws. I am not extremely against it, its interesting idea which they could test in experimental card but I fear there would be issues with it. Its not just you can say use backfill from QP, you have to go to details and talk about exact number, when backfill, with who, how will that affect the leaver, how will that affect SR for both…
the leavers team is essentially penalized because of them. that is nto fair and like others have pointed out, backfill is just not viable for comp. make the game end no matter what. no sr gain nor loss for the two teams. and make the leaver lose atleast 100 SR ( yes i know Q time sucks, but its better than waiting all that time to lose cuz of a leaver)
Loss forgiveness is the way to go but of course everyone will whine and moan about it. It can be abused.blah blah blah. Don’t let stacks do it. Track if someone leaves a group than leaves the game to try and loophole the system. Which definitely is possible.
And if you get bullied into leaving a game by randoms on the internet. I simply feel bad for you but ranked isn’t the place for you. You can mute people leave team chat. Etc. Everything can’t be a perfect safe space and you are given the tools to deal with toxicity. Use them.
I don’t like backfill. It allows a better player to come in and help the match. Especially with the huge smurfing issue in this game.
I am for pausing the Match waiting out the two minutes and calling it there. With loss forgiveness for everyone not associated with the stack.
Losing with a handicap does not mean you lost or winning with a handicap does not mean you won. The competitive integrity of that match is immediately out the window. No one deserves to win or lose that match.
So, players aren’t wasting their precious gaming time when they already have to wait in q times to play the game. Loss forgiveness is the way to go. Still reward the winner once again not wasting their time to gain nothing.
Blizzard had a system for this at the arrival of role with a questionable choice to remove it. I really would like to hear there thought process on removing it without saying anything when the feedback on it was all positive.
You can’t increase punishments it encourages deranking and hurts players who legitimately dc from playing the game. Disconnects happen from the servers being bad which they are to their internet. It’s part of online gaming.
The lack of a proper leaver system. Visual clutter being absolutely atrocious. Nothing done about smurfs. Performance based Sr and a handicapping MMR system will be the downfall of this game.
the mmr is awful. if you started this game like i did and WERE bad (it was my first pc game) but then legititmatly got good, it doesnt let you get to where you belong( low plat) also cant blizzard implement a way to track what players “click” for instance if the " x" button on the game window and “leave game” were clicked then its clearly a disconnect (most likely, ) but if those were clicked, its a leaver
You’re a gold level player. Your account is established in gold, and you made a new account and will end up in gold. Post a replay of a close loss if you disagree.
You gain SR because of leavers. There are 6 potential leavers on the other team, but only 5 on yours. Unless you are so toxic that you cause people to disconnect, in the long run your guaranteed wins (6v5s) outnumber your guaranteed losses (5v6s) due to leavers.
Alt-F4 is a thing. Resetting network connection is a thing. They will not code something that any 12 year old knows how to work around.
As for number two that’s not how rng works. We can talk About theories all day but it’s not that black and white. Some players can be positive over their careers and some can be negative.
It’s actually just math. But I guess that goes over your head. Almost anyone with thousands of games will be positive. Is it really worth creating dozens of threads and theorycrafting crazy reworks of the leaver penalty and SR hits for a few people being down 20-40 SR (which they’ll just gain back by easier wins, so it’s a mute point anyway)?
The guy who made the thread is bronze (I was actually referring to Stella before as I was in one of his threads and got it mixed up). There are literally hundreds of things he could work on to easily be over one hundred SR higher, but he chooses to instead create a thread about an elaborate new system that would take weeks to code and test (and be horribly abused at higher ranks), over possibly 20-40 SR. That’s 1-2 bad games. Why not post a replay, let a couple people evaluate it, work on those things, and never be bronze again?
Either way, muting the thread. Sorry to upset you. They will never implement the OP’s suggestion, and they will never implement backfill in competitive. I should probably start treating ALL of these threads like the “bring back mass rez” threads and just insta-mute them.
You can’t do math on a rng math can’t predict rng. That’s my point. Not everyone ends up positive as your theory suggests with leavers. That’s all I am saying
You did not upset me and if he is a bronze player he definitely could be higher just on his own skill. The leaver system is not holding him back.