Oh no! The quitters will actually quit the game?!! However will it survive without the most selfish and immature portion of its player base?!? What a tragedy!
Also “throwing” is a broad term.
I would not play tracer in comp since i would consider it throwing since i haven’t played this hero alot in a competitive setting.
With that being said calling it throwing in a qp match is a stretch. I am still trying just not good with the hero.
It’s game of “who will be sacrificial lamb”, that punishes said lamb for refusing to take such questionable “honor”.
Well… it is disruptive.
Anyone who leaves a game should be forced to backfill until they complete a backfill match.
The devs are in fact working on fixing one of the main causes of stomps, bad matchmaking and terrible balance in OW2 and it only took them 2 years to figure it out:
Solo Tanking
That’s why we are going back to 6v6
PREACH!!!, The matchmaking makes it 10000000000000000% worse.
just revert this whole ow’‘2’’ patch and put it in maintenance already vs this mess.
In Xenoverse 2 leavers are given red texts for their names, so how about leavers get marked as leavers so players and the systems will know a backfil is coming.
How exactly would that help though?
In the best case it will change nothing, in the worst case it will increase toxicity even more.
Stomps happen even in pro matches. It’s the nature of the game, but they can also turn around at any time. It’s easier to blame the matchmaker than stick it out and try to fix the problem, but that’s leaver mentality for you. Someone else is always the problem.
Then come up with something better, man this forum is being a huge headache these days.
Forget uninstalling the game, people need to uninstall this forum.
All this whining to the abyss.
Yes it is?
When someone leaves the game you put your team at a disadvantage. The obvious one is you are down a player for however long it takes for backfill to find a person and for them to load in and pick a hero and group up with the team, that can range anywhere from a couple of seconds to over a min. And when rounds can end in under 5 mins, being down a person for even 30 seconds can impact a game.
You also need to consider that the person backfilling starts at 0% ult charge placing them at a disadvantage, they also are jumping into a match mid game so they dont know the situation they are in, also a disadvantage.
Then there is the issue that OW2 is just more snowbally then OW1, so any disadvantage can lead into a worse situation.
Leaving for any reason 100% disrupts other people.
There is a reason people have been asking for it since OW1 launch, and why many games are adopting it.
Take Rocket league as a very similar situation. Its a competitive team game with a backfill system and added a leaver penalty later on.
When RL announced they were adding a leaver penalty to casual mode, people had the same response OW players had.
Im getting Déjà vu for how similar the response was.
Nearly every complaint people have about the Leaver penalty in OW is the same complaint people have in rocket league.
Yet the quality of game improve, 3ish years ago people would be saying how bad the leaver penalty is, but now the conversation is more in favor of it as its done far more good then bad.
Is our current leaver penalty perfect? No far from it, I’m in favor of the penalty but what we have isnt the best. But its better then nothing, and yes the XP penalty was effectively nothing.
I literally have to report 2-3 players EVERY game because they’re throwing or going AFK because they can’t leave. God I miss the laid back environment of OW1…
well its depends
leaving qp is OK, and i firmly believe that if you disagree, you are trying too hard in qp.
that being said, leaving comp is not ok unless you…
1: have an emergency irl, because that always takes priority
2: internet connection cuts out for some reason
those are the only two reasons you should leave comp, but qp feel free to leave at anytime, thats why backfill exists. If they didnt want people to leave they shouldnt have added backfill. Too many new ow2 players just complain about leavers, I did have any leavers in qp, so I refuse to believe that some people were getting leavers every game.
You could be in the worst most unbalanced and unwinnable game and people will look you dead in the eyes and say “you’re ruining it for others if you leave ya know”
Thank you. Someone gets it.
Putting a leaver penalty in a casual mode just seems like responding to a problem that didnt exist.
People who complain about leavers are also incredibly short-sighted. These same people are the ones who defend “practicing” in Unranked. If someone doens’t want to stick around while you’re 0 and 23 on some hero you barely know because it’s not contributing to a win, then they should be able to take off and go find a match without that.
On Comp a system like that might have issues with people making sure they play only with specific people to boost/smurf their ranking.
But on QP/Unranked? Sure! I would welcome any kind of system that makes “nice” people play more with other “nice” people. As long as the playerbase is enough to sustain acceptable (<= 5 minutes ) queue times and “good enough” skill difference.
In some way, you could say the Endorsement system plays a similar role, but it’s not used for matchmaking…
I mean they wouldn’t be playing overwatch in the first place, if they didn’t want to be here. they’d be playing another game all together.
Gotta think about why they are quitting instead of playing. Maybe if people would actually stop throwing the games and play there wouldn’t be so many “quitters” in matches.
I mean who really wants to stick around in a match when all people do is dance on the payload and do nothing on objective or those that feed.
Taking away the freedom to leave at one’s discretion is why our community’s toxicity and problems are going up even more. It should be someone’s right to find a lobby that suits them best and not everyone has the same viewpoint here, as to how URANKED modes should or should not be.
The problem here is that Competitive players are wanting to be in Unranked mode and that they are complaining when their opponents forfeit. I get that, I am at an understanding, but at the same time i see those that are mad they have people on their teams that do not want to play the game with them.
I mean realistically speaking. Those that are complaining about leavers the most are more than likely causing people to leave in the first place.
SO it really hinges on the devs fault. Not ours. For not being able to sift and sort the pool of players.
Wow. That’s spot on. Just wow. That actually happens and should be looked at.
yeah Qp was and should always have been the mode where you just chill, and quickly get in the game.
what it seems like the devs are doing(due to pressure from some players), is making qp into a second competitive mode.
I wouldnt be surprised if they removed backfill all together, which just gets rid of quickplay all together.
if you dont want leavers, or if you want to try hard, play comp. I play comp and its fun. If you dont have time to play comp just accept sometimes you will have a sucky game. Its ok, you can leave too.
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Seriously, youre my hero. This made me smile. Articulated so well, and weirdly felt respectful and mic drop at the same time. Imagine having a good opinion and being able to vent your frustration. Yeah anyways, couldnt agree more. Its such a condescending warning label. Im starting to feel like a 4 yr old whenever i play this game. Thanks for saying this <3