what say you?
I fell asleep after he said, āApparentlyā.
Iāll keep saying it.
Cry all you want but thereās a reason people donāt want to play support and why more players wonāt play it.
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Well Iād say thereās a difference between Impactful and Fun.
Tanks were always impactful. But the problem was that they werenāt Fun.
Supports in OW2 are impactful, but they are objectively, not fun enough.
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when i headshot tracer as zen i want confetti to explode out of her skull to make it feel more impactful and rewarding. Iām not joking. I also want her death scream to be really loud and for everyone to hear it clearly
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If supports were good people wouldnāt dodge support queue like Ebola. Yeah you have Moira and Lucio who are S++ tier but who tf likes playing these charactersā¦
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Iām gonna be honest man I donāt really care what this guy has to say about supports and care more about my personal gameplay experience and other players like me. i mean ādouble edged swordā? zen is indirectly nerfed by almost every major design philosophy switch in ov2,
he barely gets use out of his passive for instance because he already has a shield for poking with his orbs that regens, and if he gets jumped on he has no mobility or self peel to save himself so heās just going to die. like the support passive just does not come into play 9 times out of 10
i genuinely believe role passives were completely unnecessary and feel really silly? like, keep the tank one since thereās only one tank on each time, remove the dps speedboost and the support one, call it a day
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Just wait until they release Mediocre Heal Man #8! What will he have? speed? slow? maybe more no-heal-for-you? Pick a watered down gimmick guys, itās anyoneās guess! Just canāt do more than Ana thatās a no-no 'cus she do too much.
I canāt wait to try out the moderately tiny gun they give Heal Man #8.
OoOh wowie wow
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I like his take on the support roles and Iād have to agree with him. I really enjoy the way supports are turning out but itās definitely something everyone has to readjust to (which I think most complaints stem from)
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Each day, players are making better adjustments with natural cover to synergize with the passive
Heās bang on. I was just saying how readjusting for supps would probs feel the most stark. The role is in a good spot- Iām just hoping the supp outcry doesnāt result in unnecessary buffs.
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I think Overwatch would be a bit better if we all took this approach.
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Idk everyone on my discord liking it more than OW1 so far
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thatās not how REGEN works. if it starts after 1s, you donāt instantly get back to a good hp threshold the moment it starts. itās HoT not a burst heal.
only beneficial if youāre disengaging as opposed to using it for duel.
and thatās the problem with a lot of what heās saying about the passive. itās largely only applicable if the support is escaping/disengaging and not actually helping midfight to help take out the threat against them.
and escaping != dealing with the threat.
itās simply offloading the threat to someone else, and whether that someone else can deal with them is the decisive matter ā> supports NOT having more āindividual impactā contrary to the intention of the game.
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Naturally, with the amount of tanks needed being cut in half, support will become the next bottleneck.
You really donāt need a discord or even a brain to understand why this is.
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The complainers are almost always Ana one tricks, used to sitting out in the open, behind 18 different layers of shieldsā¦ shooting Rein in the butt the whole match.
They want a passive playstyle. And OW2 wonāt let them play passive and win games.
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When I tested out OW2, I really expected supports to be a lot worse. But theyāre really not bad at all.
Iāve been adoring how Brig plays in OW2, and neither Moira or Mercy feel like they need to be aggressive to function. I think the 5v5 change allows a lot more freedom of playstyle for them. So-far. Meta development and competitive play might change that.
For Bap and Zen however, I do think itās a net loss. Their playstyles feels a lot more limited than in OW1. But far from the doomsday some seem to proclaim it as.
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I think theyāre saying that the passive regen + inspire gets you up and into a useful state faster, not that youāre back to full instantly.
we need more confetti in ow
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I mean look at the exact literal words:
Literally hold shield up for 1s to stop incoming dmg and youāre healthy
if itās 1s to start, and heās saying itās 1s of not taking damage to become healthy, pretty sure joining the 2 dots together means heās saying it instantly gets you bank up to āuseful stateā.
sure heās exaggerating likely, but itās literally not what his literal words say.
The amount of coping in this threadā¦
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exactly! the only two good support characters are the least fun! And Brig is boring AF without the stun now (I used to enjoy her), she has no ābig impactā ability, half the time you just sit there and exist, waiting to die and trying to proc inspire, guarding the heroes on your team who have the fun play maker abilities.
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