I've had enough of McCree

You can’t dive him because he’ll stun you. You can’t brawl him because he’ll not only outrange you but then stun you.

The only thing you can do to this hero is outrange him. Except that’s not viable on a lot of maps. 20m fall-off is enough to beat any range on most maps with good positioning, so why in the absolute heck does he get the same HP as Symmetra who has to go 12m from an enemy to charge up.

Why is fan the hammer damage SO HIGH that it beats Bastion’s turret form. WHY. Tanks can’t do anything about this. At least Storm arrows has A FREAKING COOLDOWN.

The only time this hero is even duellable is when he has no stun and even then teammates can peel and he can often just survive because that 25HP makes him bulky enough to survive.

Old McCree sacrificed bulkiness for the ability to freaking instakill combo anybody who entered his effective range so who thought it was a good idea to not only increase fan the hammer damage, then follow that up with:
A buff to roll increasing survivability AND effective range.
A buff to stun making the combo EVEN more REALIBLE.
A buff to his HP making him even harder to dive or kill.
And finally with a buff to his reload reducing the punishment for spamming right click, off-setting his low ammo weakness and reducing the window of opportunity to kill him despite him JUST RECEIVING 25 EXTRA HP.

Who thought this was fine. WHO?! I’m sick of this hero. No other hitscan is this bulky, with this much cheese in the kit, with this much tank busting capabilities.

Widow trades HP, weak abilities and being a sitting duck in close range for her damage and range. Ashe trades a long reload with a weaker escape than widow for playing closer.

At least when you get close to widow she doesn’t turn around and kill you. At least when you dive Ashe she has to expend her entire clip just to fight you while possibly using 1 or both of her abilities just to survive.

McCree can just kill you. It’s ridiculous. And even if he doesn’t kill you he forced a retreat.

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just ask your zarya to bubble you smh

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B-b-b-but didn’t you know that hE’s JuSt PoPuLaR aNd F tIeR wItH AnY NeRf!!!

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I volunteer as tribute. McCree is fine…

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Top pick at every single rank except bronze disagrees.

b-b-but his WINRATE?!

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he’s literally the best dps in the game right now, it’s just a point and click adventure with being able to take down half the roster

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fan the hammer out damage’s zarya’s bubble

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He may be fine alone, but some combinations and maps just makes him very advantageous.

Edit: If you can be pocketed to survive + deal with flying heroes, flankers and diving tanks, you are good to be applicable in most situations.

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Ever heard of Tracer? She has been quite good at killing McCree since day 1.

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“DON’T sass me.”

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Tracer has been quite good at killing literally everything since day 1.

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That’s true. McCree is often heavily supported and play safe. Flankers take much more risk combating him.

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OG Brig gave her a run for her money, but after they nerfed her a couple hundred times, you know, the match up flipped.

All it took was a raid boss :man_shrugging:

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If you can be pocketed to survive + deal with flying heroes, flankers and diving tanks, you are good to be applicable in most situations.

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Brig is still good enough to delay Tracer.

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Once your defence for Mccrees power becomes him being able to lose against arguably the historically strongest dps, you should maybe start considering that your hero might just be overpowered.

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In the old days, fan the hammer used to kill Zarya, but here’s the case now

Each FtH bullet does 50 dmg, Cree has 6 bullets

Bubble is 200 HP.

So all squishies can survive a FtH if bubbled, besides, bubble can block flash bang as well.

ALSO, there are several ways your teammates can save you.

Lucio can boop Cree away, Ball can boop Cree away, Sigma rock, Doom punches Cree out of the way, etc.

Cree is one person you shouldn’t 1v1 unless you’re also playing Cree, you need team support, guess who else needs team support to beat? Bastion, Sombra, Reinhardt, etc.

Then play Tracer, instead of forcing Sym?

Genji players may complain about McCree generating more values over time, but they don’t have problem killing McCree themselves either.

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I dont play Sym.

Nice sidestepping of the point though. You’re unironically saying that Mccree is fine because Tracer can take an even matchup or be a little favoured against him. That’s basically a straight up admission that against every other dps he’s overpowered and that he’s reached almost Tracer levels of broken against a large chunk of the roster.

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