sick of hog + zarya in almost every game. if you wanna dps, queue as such.
hog that doesnt get hooks = screwball kid that needs to switch to orisa and just shoot stuff. not rocket science. hog is tankY but not a tank. not same thing at all. blizz knows what a tank is. see also; world of warcraft. hog isnt a tank, he does ZERO tank things for the group. he can take some dmg, so what. so hes a bruiser style dps. great. repeat, hog is not a tank.
zarya can SORT of help others with her bubble, but thats minimal. zarya is an offtank at best. hog meanwhile is just a fat dps who serves as an ult battery for enemy team most of the time. enough already.
People who donât think hog is a tank donât play hog or donât know what tanks are.
Hog is ALL about drawing fire, soaking bullets, and making space through his hook threat, close-range damage threat, and ult, mixed with damage mitigation to keep him safe.
Zarya is ALSO about making space. As a close-range threat with decent survavability, she is a big âpush forward and deny enemies areaâ hero. Interestingly, she kind of leans towards support with her ally shield ability, but it fits her dynamic because she also uses them to help her make space.
They are tanks, and all youâd accomplish by throwing them in the DPS queue is popularizing 3-4 tank compositions, which no one wants.
Zarya and Hog arenât picked because theyrâe âDPSâ. Theyâre picked because every other tank has gotten nerfed into the gutter in recent months. Hog/Zarya/Ball/Winston are popular because they havenât been destroyed like Orisa/Sigma/Rein/D.va
strangely, every thing you said is objectively wrong. hogs pick rate has always been roughly the same. its how you dps in tank category for shorter queues. its almost as if youre the only one that doesnt see thisâŠ
plus, making space isnt a tank thing. you may think it is, and it should be, but a dps can also accomplish this. therefore if a hog âmakes spaceâ that doesnt make hog a tank. or even if it does⊠no more so than any dps.
a fair question. one thing would be just remove his healing. or nerf his health a bit, or probably both. in any case, dpsâing as hog in a tank queue is getting stupid.
Not at best. Itâs literally what Zarya is. They only difference between Hog and Zarya compared to other tanks; is they donât have a shield. So, Iâm just going to say that creating, controlling, and maintaining space. Doesnât require a shield to achieve.
making space doesnt require a shield? for the most part, well no, not really. but that means that hog is no different from a dps. just a fat, fat, ult battery of a dps. granted having a shield to block stuff is not the only thing a tank is about, or good for⊠but the point is hog <-> regular dps = basically same thing. hog cant accomplish anything at all that you cannot do on a typical dps hero. im tired of these jackasses taking up a tank queue with this nonsense.
As you said making space doesnât require a shield, and not only tanks are capable of making space for their team either. The dps and healers on the team are fully capable of achieving this as well. Itâs just not their main job like it is for a tank. So, just for a point of reference. How are Rein, Orisa, Sigma, and Winston not just fat dps? If a shield isnât required to make space (as by your own admission). What disqualifies the rest of the tank category from being called âjust fat dps?â
Hog is a tank, with burst. Iâve saved many teammates by stepping in front of them and using breather. It reduces dmg taken by 50%, and heals 300 hp. Zaryaâs bubbles are a definition of tank, by mitigating dmg and saving.
If hog or zarya were in the DPS role, theyâd be in even more games. Another incoherent thread posted by someone who doesnât seem to understand much about Overwatch.
Uh, actually, youâre the one whoâs objectively wrong here.
(GM stats)
Hogâs pick rate BEFORE the hog buffs / shield nerfs (this was consistent for months): ~2.5%
Hogâs pick rate AFTER the buffs: ~16%
Hogâs pick rate after his nerfs: ~5%
Hogâs pick rate now: ~10%
Hog is being picked because of other circumstances than just âpeople want to play DPSâ. If you canât see that from the statistical trends, thereâs no point in discussing this any further with you.
Yes, DPS make space too⊠in a sense. But itâs more accurate to say DPS USE the space that tanks make. DPS cannot tank as much damage as tanks, so the tanks are needed to soak it for the DPS, to become enough of a threat that the DPS have more room to work.
Zarya/hog fulfill that role. To say that is âobjectivelyâ wrong is silly; there is nothing âobjectiveâ about any statement of opinion or analysis, including the ones that I just posted. My stats are âObjectiveâ. My assessmentâand yoursâare not.
Zaryas mechanics are more than fitting for a tank IMO
Hogs however, as a whole and as he currently is- to me of course, are not.
I donât feel hog fits the tank class at all- heâs a tanky assassin, but thatâs not the same as being a âtankâ within the context and expectations I feel many anticipate for overwatch.
i love pretending to be afk to kill those tracers works every time
