"It's just industry standard"

“It’s industry standards” is the reason we’re in the mess to begin with. People started accepting these predatory F2P models from greedy AAA companies, and somewhere along the line it became “industry standards”.

And as long as people continue to support this and accept it as “industry standards”, it’ll continue to be like that. Overwatch 2 didn’t need this, the fiscal reports for ActivisionBlizzard showed a steady stream of income on Overwatch 1. But it was only “OK” income. ActivisionBlizzard wanted more than just OK. So they sold a lie in that they had to do it, and a lot of players swallowed it raw and accepted it as “industry standards”. And so Kotick and ActivisionBlizzard can laugh all the way to the bank.

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So let me ask you what does posting here on the forums that the price is to expensive hurt our position on ANY of that? Why tell anyone NOT to say they think the price is too high?

Well my point is that I don’t think there is enough focus on the attempts to manipulate value perception.

This will make people buy at prices they don’t want to.

If this happens, all the crying about prices won’t change a thing like it hasn’t for other games.

The “illegal” practices, while I question the legal credentials of the people bring them up, is the right conversation to make change happen.

OK… so we tell people to include that. Not “complaining about prices is useless” then.

Well - yes it is useless.

They will not listen to that (as has been proven by Diablo Immortal and Fortune 500 companies around the world) but if it makes you feel better, then go ahead.

I’m just really against people telling others to NOT complain. More. More complaining. About all the things.

I’m more about focusing on what actually works and on the real problem.

But yes, let’s add to the noise so they see it all as noise rather than unite on the thing we have a chance to change.

So maybe boost that signal and don’t attempt to silence others.

Even if it’s “noise” if there’s enough of it they need to realize at least SOMETHING is wrong.

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Standard =/= Good.
Standard =/= Acceptable.

Something being an industry standard is not a justification.
Saying something is standard is not a defense.
In this case, it would be a criticism, pointing out that the standard is bad.

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Consoomer generation don’t care. They spend money like it’s on fire and will be gone if it’s not used.

Gen Z is very submissive and loves to be abused… do not even tell them they should expect quality from a company they do not understand what you are talking about.

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In the end , it’s all about cosmetics that are rarely visible while playing the game…
They don’t alter anything nor have any impact on the gameplay itself…
Can’t blame a company looking for a way to get money from a free game… as long as it’s not pay to win, it’s all about anyone’s choice to spend money on it.

Good lord - it’s like talking to a lamppost.

I’m saying change the message, not be quiet.

Well keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

Same to you I guess.

You’re trying to tell people they’re mad about the wrong thing, I’m saying that people are mad and they all have valid reasons for it.

Again. I’m telling people they want to get the thing they are mad about changed.

No one is telling them how to feel.

You are telling them to do something proven to be useless.

Doesn’t change anything. Blizzard attached their name to it, and so they’ll bear this cross forever

yeah id much rather have to buy OW2 for 60 and them actually have in game currency you can earn. If you dont have an OW1 account that already had skins youre pretty much out of luck. also the fact that they want 20 bucks for a singular skin is wild to me.