"It's just industry standard"

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No. It’s not. I am sick and tired of people defending this game by saying its the industry standard.

1. Prices
The prices of Overwatch 2 items are not industry standard. High tier cod bundles are around 20 dollars. Apex skins are around 20 dollars. Fortnite skins are around 13 dollars. Paladins skins are around 18 dollars. The Kiriko witch skin is 26, and thats without it’s cute little discount.

2. Quality
The items sold here have less quality and effort than other games.
-Paladins: custom Voice, sound effects, ability animations and effects
-Call of duty(weapon variants): Custom tracers, weapon sounds, animations
-Smite: custom voice, ability effects, animation effects, some also evolving skins
-Fortnite: Multiple options for each skin, custom emotes and effects
-Overwatch: Literally just a skin

3. Content options
Other games sell their items in shop, but most other games that people are comparing to also offer other options to obtain slightly lesser cosmetics. Challenges, apex packs, trials of the realm, level up progression, etc. Are free options built into the game allowing players to earn cosmetics at a reasonable rate(yeah screw the 60 coins per week lol). These help balance out the shop. Overwatch 2 offers absolutely nothing in this regard. Besides the literal chump change amount of items you get for free, there’s no system in place to allow for a consistent delivery of free content for players.

Conclusion: Overwatch 2 is not utilizing the industry standard for cosmetics; it’s taking the industry standard and making it worse and more predatory, which, to be fair, is a blizzard thing to do. Regardless, tired of hearing this defense. Its like saying “Every other car company makes their windows out of glass!” While the company you’re referring to makes their windows out of cardboard.

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For reference THIS… is a skin for Raum

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Yeah OW2 is probably the most greedy in the industry. Halo at least has permanent bps and a free event pass. Apex has stuff you can get with free currency and a battle pass. Valorant, probably the second most greedy game, at least has pistol skins you can work for for free independent of the BP.

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Paladins is killing it on cosmetics and battle pass.
You can tell they’re experienced in F2P games…unlike Blizz.

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im pretty sure Overwatch skins also have custom voicelines and sfx

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They don’t for the majority, except for rare ones that aren’t available anymore like Pink Mercy which has special sound effects. The old OWL skins had some special visual effects.

The only legendary that comes to mind to me atm that isn’t a special one time skin or old OWL skin is the Rein train master skin who has a train sound effect on charge.

There’s really little effort being put into these new $20+ OW2 legendaries. And selling old basic OW1 legendaries for $20 which for the most part have no special effects is poor show.

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Most of them don’t. Ironically, most of the early ow1 skins do(Dr.Junkenstein, pumpkin reaper, mei-rry, santaclad) but almost all of the later ones don’t.

Witch kiriko and Executioner junkerqueen have custom voicelines in the revenge of the bride mode, but the acual skins don’t have these lines.

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Blizzard was always good at pushing boundaries…but instead of gameplay they’ve decided to push boundaries in how much they can monetize games and get away with it.

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Because Paladins takes random people as VAs. They also never rework heroes. Different practices.

But I agree that the OW2 skins are not worth the money.

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Paladins has really big names as VA’s too. Like Josh Petersdorf (Hogs VA) as Terminus or Todd Hoberkorn as Lex.

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I will not deny it but they dont recast them. Every skin as a different VA (that are not basic skin based).

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You’re totally right about the prices and the quality

But you see the majority of people here not complaining about these stuff, but complaining about cosmetics having a price in the first place, which is dumb

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Eh, maybe I’m on the wrong part of the forums or just haven’t read enough posts, but it hasn’t seemed that way to me.

I have seen a few people saying they’d buy skins for $1 and like…I get that things are over priced, but that’s just insultingly low unless it’s a literal recolor.

Most people I’ve seen would be fine with $10 for the upper tiers of skins and maybe $15-20 for mythics.

Also…this reminds me of a reddit post where someone bought (or could buy) the pachimaru charm in real life for less money for than the in-game charm.

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straight up facts. what they are doing right now is just another try to completely redefine the standard into something we will have to put up with for years to come if we dont boycott it and speak out about it.

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Some do, but it isn’t every legendary for sure. It’s only a handful.

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And if you were purchasing these, how would you even know before you purchase? There’s no way to know until after you have them unless you know someone with them or watch a YouTube video about it. That frustrates me. I wish there was a way to know what you were purchasing (voice lines, sound effects, any particle effects)

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“All the other companies are using child labor in unregulated foreign markets, it’s an industry standard”

… seems a little more obvious why “everyone doing this means it’s OK” is piffle if you take it to extremes.

Making something ubiquitous doesn’t make it OK.

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Well I won’t go on about them not being the same because you know they are not.

One thing I think we need to get right in this is what exactly the problem is.

High pricing is NOT the problem. If you don’t think it’s worth it, don’t buy it. Same for every non-essential.

Predatory practices to entice young people into addiction is a problem.

The pricing discussion will always fall on deaf ears because it’s still consumer choice at the end of the day.

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Even worse is in the case of these 2 skins specifically, if you played with them in the new mode, you would think they have these lines. They give you the skins for free, and they have these lines, so a majority of players would put 2 and 2 together and say “oh yeah these skins probably have these voice lines” when in reality they actually don’t.

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If this is industry standard then we need to raise our standards…

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