In this game is legit impossible to climb

Each. single. time.

I have:

Doomfist onetricks
facing smurfs.
playing into diamonds when in gold.
the guy playing widow with his monitor off
tanks that dunno how to counterpick , like zarya players into rein , dva into zarya and so on

I start legit to think to pay someone too boost me as is the only way someone can climb in this game.

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It’s low elo. Once you get put there you’re trapped. I have bought 3 accounts and placed high in all of them. My one that’s in gold? Stuck there and further dropping. Tanks that play Rein into a double pocketed Orisa, DPS who can’t hit a Mercy but one trick hitscan and queue game after game, Zen players who hit ults out of panic to dying.

Elo hell very much exists in this game.

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i mean there are literal 10000’s of accounts that would say otherwise…

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I know that brick wall! Either playing the most broken hero or get some friends feels like the only way to push our way higher…

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I’m on my Gold account. Been playing for 2 days and I think I’m 4 -30 at this point? I switch over to my other accounts and it’s not even close to games like this.

Edit 4-31 now. Never saw a Winston put down bubble first then jump into a pocketed McCree before.

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so your own accounts negate what youre saying then? sometimes stuff doesnt go your way…welcome to online gaming :man_shrugging:t2:

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smurf accounts doesn’t count.They just climb as play into lower ranks.

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There are going to be moments where it’s likely out of your control to win games. I know it’s easier said then done, but I try to take those particular games with a grain of salt.

What helps me keep my mind preoccupied during those irritating matches, I focus more on myself of what to improve i.e. positioning, aim, game sense.

Edit: I also want to point out in my experience with climbing. I feel I have the most control/value in a match as DPS. Tank is probably ≤ DPS in terms of win condition, and support is more dependent either or both roles. (Not saying supports are the weakest role; I believe Support is as important as tank.)

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Even back in the days jeff himself stated that the ranking system is not designed to be climbable.
As for the throwers and bad players that is just the forced winrate speaking.

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Even pro players take 8 hours to get to GM starting on a Bronze account. There was a Chinese/Korean player with 43–1 victories, and it took him 8 hours. Imagine normal people.

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Nah, sorry, but the comp system is completly stupid. Gold/Plat is the most difficult rank to get anway from. The longer you are in there, the harder is it to climb, because the game cements you there. Its far easier from Diamond to Master.

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Is this true? I mean, I suppose there are literal tens of thousands of accounts that have played comp at some point. But does comp actually have at least 10 thousand concurrent players at any one moment? What do the charts say? Wherever these player charts are.

10 k if you count the guy who ruin the game smurfing dude.

I have a 55% winrate in diamond. My profile is open if you need confirmation. It is possible to climb but it’s not as simple as “You’re in the same rank you’re just as bad” or “you are the only constant”. The reality is there are bad teammates and some games will be lost because of your teammates as well as smurfs. However there will be games where you also have a smurf or the enemy has been teammates, that you’ll just win, and then there are games where it is 50/50, and you’ll need to get a ton of value, and if you win more of those games than you lose, then when you factor in the games you’ve won just because someone on your team is smurfing or the enemy team is bad, you’ll eventually have a positive winrate

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It didn’t in OW1, but it definitely does in OW2.

Here’s a video by someone who’s hit rank one in every role saying he can’t get out of masters on his old account https://youtu.be/5N5RGRtYxo8

The comment section is full of people talking about their main accounts being hard stuck in metal ranks when they’ve been playing in diamond + for months or years on other accounts. Elo hell is absolutely real in OW2. It’s due to a flawed mmr system and OW2s more lenient matchmaking.

There was an old dev comment that said “the more playtime you have, the more sure mmr is of where you belong”. That confirms the mmr system has very strong opinions about you skill level on old accounts with a lot of playtime so it will be much harder to climb with them.

In my experience and many others, old account mmr is so sticky it actually does make it nearly impossible to climb, and I’m convinced that combined with OW2s more lenient matchmaking, it actually does make it impossible to climb.

My main account is hard stuck diamond/gold/plat. I’ve been playing GM/diamond/diamond for 6 months on another account. My main account gives me trash can team mates. My other account gives me competent team mates.

It’s very obvious the mmr system works in a way that hard judges your skill level and then gives you team mates to place you where it believes you should be.

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The best strategy despite the negative reception is to only play 1-3 heroes and get really good at them. Don’t be a jack of all trades, master of none. I one tricked genji to diamond while also playing a little bit of tracer and cass

i only went with 10000’s cause 100000 would just be a guess…but you can check steam charts and see an average in the 30-50k range (just for steam)

i hear ya…it’s tough, for sure, but, i myself can tell you it IS possible…you just have to be patient.

I used to be a bottom 500 player in OW1, and could NEVER climb…however, either OW2 changed something, or maybe ive actually improved a little (LOL, yeah right)…but, i dont play comp a lot anyway, due to only being solo queue and only playing on the weekends. However, after initially placing at bronze 5, ive managed to climb to almost silver 3 (im at about 78% into silver 4 right now), and while i do have some games that go up…then some that go down, ive found it IS possible…just takes a lot of effort.

The first thing you need to do is relax, dont go into games tilted. First and foremost, remember…THIS IS A GAME…no need to take it seriously. It doesnt make you and less of a man or woman if you cant be a GM player, not everyone is cut out for things like that. So the first thing you need to do is just try to have fun in the game, because, that’s what its really all about. Then, dont fret the losses, and understand that you ARE going to face smurfs, you ARE going to face horrible matchmaking, and you ARE going to face playing with teammates who you think are just terrible. Whats key is to make sure you do YOUR best, try to play as a team, despite others wanting to do their own thing, after all, you can only control what YOU do, so make the best of it.

Also realize that, this game is about strategy. Many think it’s just a shooter, but it’s not. You need to be thinking of this game like a game of chess. What moves are you going to make compared to what your team is going to make, in relation to what the other team is doing. This is the part i struggle with…after decades of OCD and anxiety, my mind has been turned to mush because of all the constant thinking and worrying…so these days im just kind of “bleh”…but, i try…it’s just that i cant keep all these things in my head, positions, ults, all that… anyway, that’s another topic, not this one lol

Also, remember, people actually put in a LOT of time into practice. Aim trainers, watching youtube videos, paying for one on one coaching. There’s a lot more going on behind the scenes of some of these players that one would realize. The amount of time some of these people put into OW, could be considered a second job!

Anyway, i know, long winded, sorry. Just realize that, not everyone can climb, i think, by far, the largest section of comp is in the gold rank and below. As you go up, the player base thins out because there are just not as many GM level players as there are bronze-gold, i personally think they are all robots…especially the genjis…yeah, dont deny it…you are all AI driven…i KNOW IT! :smiley:

anyway, try to relax and have FUN first and foremost, let the rest come naturally, or invest time and see if you can improve faster.

:slight_smile:

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Look mom! I’m on TV!

ye and almost all of them are ‘‘alts’’

I play ‘‘only’’ venture and torb and doesn’t work. I can learn 3 heroes then what? A smurf or a garbage teammate will come and waste all my efforts.