In the end, I was right about RQ

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5 DPS

Not even an issue, though you are still able to get a DPS Ana and Moira along with a Hog and an overaggressive Rein along with your other 2 DPS.

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@RockinRudy-1752

GOATs

Was becoming less of an issue. If you recall, 4 DPS comps and bunker was starting to become quite prevalent near the end.

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@RockinRudy-1752

Selfish Players refusing to swap to counter or match GOATs

Still a thing. Role Q does not make people more likely to switch, I would agree it does the opposite since people do not want to wait 10 minutes just to play a hero they don’t want to.
Role Q even reduces the effectiveness of switching since people are now greatly limited to what heroes they can switch to.

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@RockinRudy-1752

4k+SR, 5-6 stacks led to boosting at the top of the game. A lot harder to do now in Role-Queue with the limit of 2 stacking.

2 stacking isn’t a staple of Role Q and is an entirely separate thing. Especially since it was added before Role Q.

Higher rank players have a different experience than lower rank players especially when we are pushing the game to it’s limits laid out by the developers. If a player is playing DPS Ana or Moira they are throwing something that is rare in GM ranks. Also funny enough limiting 2 player stacks didn’t fix GOATs in GM either, it helped combat boosting and Role-Queue made this harder due to locked roles.

All of the issues I posted above were fixed in GM. If you are below GM and didn’t experience these issues. Fantastic, keep trying to climb because when you do these issues get worse and worse. The same can be said with Role-Queue dealing with queue times, as you go up it’s gets worse and worse.

In GM, GOATs was in practically every game with players who knew how to play the unbeatable comp, refusing to swap led to a loss, having 4 Support Mains led to a loss. Playing 4-5 DPS into experienced players who played GOATs led to a loss. Bunker comps was not replacing GOATs, if you played Bunker before Role-Queue you would get destroyed by experienced GOATs players. Role-Queue fixed this entirely.

Players at the lowest rank do not experience most of these issues while players at the top do. I and other GM players certainly should not be taking advice on how the game should be played at the top by players below GM since we have a better understanding of the Meta and how it should be played.

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@RockinRudy-1752

4 Support (Tank or DPS) Mains in the same group.

Once again, can still happen. Especially with the introduction of priority pass.

This is impossible to happen in competitive play as roles are locked with different SR in different roles. If the player has Diamond Tank SR. GM DPS SR and Diamond Support SR they will be matched appropriately in the role they choose. Quick play operates differently.

This is an issue with priority pass, not Role-Queue. If anything defenders of Open-Queue should be trying to get the mode into Quick Plays menu just like in Comp and have it removed entirely from Arcade. This will free up a slot in Arcade as well.

We can agree to disagree on this matter since our experiences are different based off rank. I’m not rank shaming, you just clearly have not experienced top level play Pre-Role-Queue.