Imo mass Rez can come back if it gets 4 nerfs (Day 2)

[NiceGenji-1347]

Ever since Mercy became invincible when she uses Rez, it made Rez no risk/high reward. Plus Rez behind walls made it no risk/high reward too.

The 4 nerfs:
No invincibility, but Mercy will have a 50% damage reduction during Rez. (No movement speed penalty)
No Rez behind walls, but Mercy will be able to Rez behind light post, tables, rails, behind or on the sides of a payload, and other breakable objects.
Must have a cast time (1.35s)
Increased ult cost (15%) but Mercy hps will be increased to 55hps or 60hps

Mass Rez is a high reward ult, so it has to have high risk. These nerfs will also make it feel less unfun to play against.

New E’s:

“Heal Blast”. (I suck at names) Mercy wings will glow bright and there will be a yellow circle on the ground, similar to Lucio, but the radius will be 10m. Heal Pulse cd will be 10s, the duration will be 8s, each blast will heal 20hp.

New Basic Ability - Pacify:

• After a .5 second wind-up, Mercy launches a single hitscan attack from her left hand.
• The projectile’s hitbox size resembles that of Symmetra’s secondary fire.
• The projectile deals no damage upon impact with an enemy. Instead, it applies a debuff that reduces the base damage dealt by the target by 33%. 100 damage is reduced to 67 damage before other damage amplifiers/reductions are factored in.
• This debuff lasts for 4 seconds.
• The projectile does not persist once it hits an enemy. It is only able to affect one enemy for each use.
• The projectile is blocked by barriers, Defense Matrix, and Particle Barriers. It can be deflected by Genji’s Deflect ability.
• 10 second cooldown. The cooldown begins after the ability is cast.
• There is a .25 second wind-down time after Pacify is launched.
• During the wind-up and wind-down times, Mercy is not able to use her staff, her pistol, or Resurrect. She may use Guardian Angel, however.
• Does not affect non-player entities and constructs (turrets, Rip-Tire, Supercharger, etc)

Cleanse: Removes effects on a teammate like hack or Ana grenade.

Good ideas:

I do like the idea of having the cast time scale with number of people rez - it would make it a safer choice for the Mercy to tempo rez rather than try their luck at a big one.

Something like:
x1 - 0,3
x2-x3 - 0,8 (same as Sound Barrier)
x4-x5 - 1, 7 (same as current)

Note that this is just cast time, no slow, but I do think her abilities should be disabled during casting.

[Medic-12555]

LoS
Small damage reduction instead of invulnerability (like maybe 15% at maximum)
I would most likely make the cast time 1 second, but yeah a cast time is needed.

I see 0 problems with these nerfs should Mass Rez comes back.

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

What us Mercy players have been saying for the past year

[NiceGenji-1347]

Small damage reduction instead of invulnerability (like maybe 15% at maximum)

This looks like a good change. I will put this in the op

[Absql-1290]

Literally this reply

[IsTheMedia-1302]

Seeing Mass Rez get a similar treatment to Bionic Pulse might also be a good idea (has the cast time and LoS but has a limited area where it takes effect).

But yeah LoS, Damage Reduction instead over invuln, and cast time would be optimal.

[Almostward-11535]

Wait…these nerf…I can work with

[FreakyFodder-1513]

The more people you rez the longer it takes. Like high noon… So it like 0.20 seconds (just random number) to rez one person

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

15% at maximum

What about 50%? 15% feels too low imo.

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

So like a channeled ultimate?

[Kailan-11666]

I do agree with some of the restrictions in theory here but Mass Rez was underpowered with the original near-instant cast and without LOS.

It would have to be tweaked so that mass rez is still viable without being oppressive, so:

• LOS check
• Reduced AOE radius (or max amount rezzed limit, like 3? since tempo rezzes were better anyways)
• Increased ult charge requirement
• 50% Damage Reduction upon cast
• No movement speed reduction when casting

The problem with Mercy 1.0 was that while her rez alone was powerful, she consistently died while using it because she’d just get her face melted off. (see: suicide and rez)

They tried to fix it with the invulnerability buff, but that just massively overtuned it and catapulted her into near must pick territory.

Middle ground would be a damage reduction. It allows for Mercy to still be killed while using it, especially with a short cast time, while also allowing Mercy to have at least some chance of surviving it. LOS check and AOE or max rez amount reduction would severely limit a Mercy’s ability to pull off the huge rez that so many people hated, while also encouraging Mercy’s to aim for tempo rezzes instead.

[OWSaint-1218]

sounds good to me

Most mercy players want something like this any way

[Plarpoon-2445]

that’s what we started asking 1 year ago 'till now…

[FreakyFodder-1513]

Yup 20characterssssss

[Sleix-1828]

Oh, here we go again…

I swear the mass res Mercies are in perpetual stage 2 of grieving and still can’t let it go…give up, dudes. Just. GIVE. UP. Please, for the rest of us Mercy folk. You’re the ones that are making the Mercy cult meme more real by the moment. Please, stop.

[QuizzyBunny-2512]

Done!

Nice doing business with you!

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

Lmao what? The Mercy cult meme was made because of the “Mercy spam”. It has nothing to do with mass ress…

[Kailan-11666]

OP isn’t a Mercy main.

[PastelGoth-11549]

Cast time can’t be higher than Lucio’s cast time (0.8, and it needs to be shorter). If it was 1 sec it would be useless

[IsTheMedia-1302]

Dude not even a Mercy main but for the fact that I’ve experienced a game that had an AoE res and actually worked just shows that it can be done.