If Zen got nerfed, Moira definitely isn't safe


#9

What?
His alt fire was changed due to it being stupid good at LONG range not short.
Sniping at spawn etc
Not saying it’s a justified nerf but just get your facts straight.


#10

They wouldn’t. If they would consider nerfing her, state me some valid reasons.

Zenyatta secondary fire was nerfed due to his high burst damage. A minor nerf that won’t impact his performance heavily.


#11

Yes but since it was luck and wasn’t very hard it deserves a nerf? I’m following your logic here.


#12

Yeah, there was some talk. He didn’t need to kill someone so quickly, there was almost no reaction time.


#13

I just love that when he got nerfed some people were like: “Uh, yeah he deserves it, too much alt spam no skill, easy kills,etc.”

When literally everyone saw Zen as a balanced hero and nobody complained about him.


#14

As if we needed even more proof the forum is just a pro-support circlej/hivemind LUL


#15

“Developer Comments: Zenyatta is meant to be able to deal a lot of damage, especially for a support, but his alternate fire burst damage was a bit too high. This change keeps the overall damage the same but lowers the DPS slightly and makes it harder to hit multiple shots at very long ranges.”

You’re right, my bad.


#16

Hanzo also has projectile falloff. I don’t think anyone is fine with a support being able to just kill someone across the map. That’s the only thing that the nerf really affects, those extreme ranges. If you are mid to close it barely makes a difference.


#17

No, that’s proof that I read the developer comments wrong. Idiot.


#18

The pros complained.
You are very naive (as Jeff has said) to think this forum means much to the dev team. The pro scene is what matters to bliz.


#19

I was suprised zenny came before her. w/ all the people annoyed with her range and damage on here I totally thought she would be nerfed before him


#20

I’m starting to smell “but he’s a support though”, and he clearly still can land lucky headshots so this nerf didn’t really affect anything significantly.

I still don’t see why he deserved that nerf albeit very insignificant.


#21

Sorry, that was rude of me. :sweat_smile:


#22

It’s alright, everyone can agree that the forums do look like a support circlej sometimes.


#23

Because the DEVs saw him do something that they didn’t really intend for him?


#24

Oh, about 2 years later after the release of the game as it was happening the entire time? Oh no but now suddenly it clicked and they decided to nerf it, right.


#25

The alt fire is still strong at close range. I believe they nerfed it cuz it was too strong at long range


#26

The pros started to complain.
They are the ones who dictate it all afterall.


#27

Uhm… Zen’s right click hasn’t been like this for the past 2 years, he got a consistency buff some time ago and before that, his right click was basically useless.


#28

If that is the case, that the pros complained about his alt fire, then I don’t have anything to say to that.

I mean I do feel more comfortable with them leading the way.