Then you have to prove it y’all. Start only playing tank so the current queues become so unbalanced that they have to put a tank back in. If you’re not willing to take this step then complaining about it won’t matter. Asking for it will not matter. (Sorry for another 6v6 thread)
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Yep, unless a lot more people start playing tank nothing will change.
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I am playing Tank as we speak
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That’s 1 player. Who is playing currently. Hopefully for the rest of time until the reinstating if 6v6. Who else is willing to take this dangerous step y’all?
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I used to play Tank in OW1. I would be willing to start playing again if OW2 switched to 6v6. That and heroes in the BP are the two big reasons I refuse to play anymore.
I don’t think Blizzard is likely to add 6v6, even if God descended from the heavens and said “y’all goofed, go back to 6v6.” They’re too proud. But, I think had they kept 6v6 with OW2 and made most of the rest of the changes (F2P, CC changes, resuming content flow), you’d find a generally happier Tank player base than what we have today, because those changes would’ve helped address many of the bigger frustrations in the Tank role without adding a bunch more issues
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Can’t work that way. That’s not a guarantee. The numbers have to prove that you are back. Not that you will go back if….
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Maybe they should try making tank fun to play again?
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But why would I come back if the game now is unfun & not what I want?
You’re putting the cart before the horse here. If players flocked back now, that tells Blizzard what they’re doing is right. The whole reason they changed things in the first place is because they determined they were doing something wrong, as evidenced by queues—they just mis-estimated what the problem was, and thus mis-estimated the solution
Also, if Blizzard only worked when they had guarantees of things working/being liked, they wouldn’t have made half the changes they ever made to the game. FWIW, as much as I think Blizzard often undermines their own chances for success, there is some value in making bold changes even if they’re not guaranteed to work—they just have this bad habit of sticking to their guns when those changes don’t go the way they hoped.
I agree that more Tanks leaving isn’t going to necessarily compel Blizzard to go back to 6v6. Like I said, I think they’re more likely to just delete the role or even shutter servers than go back to 6v6. It’s like how they hunkered down with the Mercy rework despite all the negative feedback around that. They’d sooner burn their game to the ground than walk it back… but that doesn’t mean that them hunkering down & committing is the right decision, and I don’t think it really takes a whole lot of introspection to see that
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Wouldn’t be faster if everybody or the half of tanks who remained, stop playing tanks? Would have similar effect and point to prove. I mean, if the removal of one player decreased the queue time, if the ones who stayed also not play it, the queue times would increase again.
Also, prove that the role became even less popular than before, due the change.
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There is no way they would bring that back any time soon
Sorry to break it to you but, that ain’t the way it works.
In order for them to listen, people need to stop playing tanks completely. That’ll give them the indicator that it’s not working the way they intended. The more people playing tanks, the more we’re telling them that it’s working as intended…
Simple psychology.
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Yep. Bottom line, players are typically reactive, not proactive. If players are leaving, it’s usually because something is wrong. If they’re sticking around or coming back, it’s because something is right.
Players usually don’t come back because something is wrong & they want to campaign for it to be made right, and most developers won’t interpret it that way. Most often, those players are just going to play less, or leave.
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Unless that gets rid of tanks entirely and they just rework them into different roles. But if you think the easier route gets you a reward go for it.
If your solution is to not play tank go see where that got 6v6. Oh that’s right it had a tank removed and 5v5 came to be. Crazy you think making the same mistake would make it so it came back. Absolutely crazy.
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Uhmmm…. Try again buddy
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Yeah I made a mistake. 
. Sorry.
But I don’t think it’s a possibility to roll back. Forward is really their only choice to me.
Really I think the most effective way for 6v6 to have a chance to come back is for people to continue to provide very loud, clear feedback about what they want. Blizzard would probably need some changes in terms of who is running the show, too.
To be clear, I’m not bullish about the chances of 6v6 coming back, even if it is clearly what should be done. There are plenty of instances of Blizzard just ignoring or outright ridiculing player feedback even if it clearly pointed a specific direction. That’s why I say, even God himself could say “switch back to 6v6” and they wouldn’t do it.
I’d love to be wrong and see them switch back. And I’ll continue to voice feedback that they should, but I’m aware of who the developer is and what their habits are.
In the sense of a rollback in terms of going back to a previous saved build, correct. Blizzard has outright said they don’t save prior builds
In terms of refusing to go back to previous game states (possibly requiring rebuilding it)? That’s how Blizzard frequently acts, but it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s their choice to have that policy. They’re just incredibly stubborn
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if more people start playing tank, and the queue times come down as a result, blizzard will just continue to have their fingers in their ears saying to themselves
“Ohh look the queue problem is solved, we fixed it!”
because there will always be those wanting to play DPS and Support, so that argument is an oxymoron
But if more people play tank than dps and support then it creates a very crazy queue for tanking eventually. It just takes the population of tanks to double or triple. And I’m sure dps and supports that want to see 6v6 back are ready to do this right? Because without a big enough tank population we can’t go back.
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I kinda disagree. Asking for it in Role Queue, won’t work.
But 6v6 in Open Queue would work really well.
Instead of solving for “Too few Tank players”, you solve for “Too many DPS players”.
So you think if everyone stops queueing tank they are gonna go back to 6v6 which requires the matchmaker to find 2 more tanks per game and requires them to nerf all tanks to be less fun individually?
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