1 game sample size for loss w leaver and you are below your ELO, which explains the small loss.
Does not confirm your suggestion
Thanks. But could you give me the games without leavers as well? I need that as a control to make sure that nothing else is going on.
Its not one game , cant you read? I posted 5 games. I dont count 2 in placement.
And before role q I was losing like 16 or something on alt account which was in lower elos than my main, 7 is half of it. Didnt see this before.
usualy gaining between 21-30 SR in games without leavers.
Please re-read what i said. One game sample size of a loss with a leaver is not a big enough sample size.
You also have no context for what you gained/lost without a leaver to show that there was an inconsistency
You then admitted you were not at the correct ELO, which would explain why these numbers are not your average.
So yes, I read, did you?
It goes both ways… when enemy team has leaver I am gaining less than in normal games. 16, 13, 16, 16. Normaly I am gaining more.
Dont you get it? I am gaining low amount of SR in games with leavers as I would have lower MMR. Its not the case. Its opposite as I am playing below my elo.
I think you need to compare your wins/losses SR with and without leavers to do that, especially if you are not at the correct ELO. What you “normally” gain or lose is irrelevant.
I actualy forgot to post one more game with leaver where I gained 20.
So here you have my games where I won
With leavers on enemy team:
+16+13+16+20+16
Without leavers on enemy team:
+21+32+23+22+26+22+29+26+28+27+25+26+30+31+21+27+27+27+29+28+25+30+29+27+24+31+33+21+25+27+26+27+27+24+30+29+124+29+28+26+26+24+30+32+41+24+23+25+25+24+25+29+25+31+24+23+24+
Not in one game without leavers I was gaining so low ammount as in games where enemy team had leavers.
These are all season 18?
Yes, they are all from season 18.
I will definitely collect more data with more games but I definitely see the patern.
I checked one of my games with enemy leaver where I gained only 16. I was playing DPS, McCree, 53% accuracy, 27 elims(gold), 20 final blows, dmg gold, 2 deaths, 63% kill participation and I basicly carried first round with 3 payload points. This is not the game where I should gain only 16 SR normaly, no way. Leaver left after we pushed payload to the end btw. And game was 10 minutes long.
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You will probably lose more SR (at least below Diamond) because your overall stats are going to be worse in a 5v6 scenario pretty much all the time.
But thats what I was talking about. Its actualy opposite. If you have leaver and lose game, you lose less now. When enemy team have leaver, you will gain less too(if you win).
That looks significant. When the other team has a leaver, do you play to win harder: that is, to pound them into the ground, or do you take it easy? That is, I’d like to make sure this is not a statistical performance effect.
Check one of my reactions to other guy. Just few above where i typed all my sr gained with and without leavers.
I usualy dont take it easy as i had games with leaver who came back and we almost lost the match. I am talking about one of my games above, where i carried in payload attack round and when we stomped them, someone from their team left.
I had few games like this. When you stomp the other team hard in first round, it happens sonetime so somebody will leave. But in every game like that i played exceptionaly well so its weird to gained only so much.
Abyway, i will continue to collect more data.
I just had another case of leaver guys. We were stomped on first round Oasis, I didnt really do much, it was 0/100, leaver after first round in my team, stomped again in second round 5v6. I lost only 12 SR. In my other game I played few games before I lost 23 SR.
Thanks. I’ve updated this from forum rumor to credible report, and updated How Competitive Matchmaking and Rating Works (Season 18).
I have another case. Played game like 2 hours ago, enemy team had leaver early as we were kind of stomping them. Gained only 7 SR, I asked one of my team mates, he received only 6 too.
I don’t think leavers affect your sr directly but with a player missing in your team, it’s more likely you’ll have worse stats hence lose more sr. Though I honestly don’t care about such small sr changes so I don’t really notice it.
Edit oh and same for enemy team, they too should have worse stats and earn less sr.
I just had a game on Volskaya where we rolled the enemy team on attack and had like a 5 minute time bank. Someone on their team left, and the remaining 5 played out the rest of the game. My team won, but I gained only 8 SR. And I basically never in any other case have ever gained or lost so little SR in at least a couple of years.
And no, I did not note the SR difference in teams, but I’m mid plat so how far off could it be.
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