No one respects OW2 because easy heroes like Brig and Moira are allowed to compete with the likes of Ana or Zen. If there’s no challenge because anyone can just pick up the game and get easy value with no skill hero then there’s no reason to try and improve. The most skillful heroes like Genji are purposefully made bad to protect the feelings of players not willing to put in the effort to get better. If the same is done for widow then I quit. She’s the most skillful hero in the game. No cheese mechanics like cowboy grenade, no braindead abilities like sym turrets. Either you hit your shot or get diffed. If you lose a widow duel you have no one to blame but yourself and i guess that’s why people are calling for her nerfs because they are too lazy to get good at the hero themselves so they have to try and put down others who are skilled. It’s bitter and pathetic. If blizzard caves to these losers then this game is truly done.
widow wont get her 1 shot removed, relax. its quintessential to her identity
If widow doesnt get her 1 shot nerfed, its the final straw. I already leave games because of it.
Widow has one of he most poorly designed Sniper counterplay in any modern FPS game.
And there’s a whole lot more people who are fed up dealing with it, than those that want that design to continue.
“Two shots, one kill” - new widow voice line incoming, lol
Only realistic solutions I see happening:
- Keep the oneshot, but it’s damage over time
- Keep the oneshot, but give it a lot of damage dropoff at range
Widow is a leaver-generator. In lower ranks QP people leave constantly because of widow 1-shots, especially supports. You get a backfill, they leave spawn, get 1-shot, leave, repeat.
She is the C word (pick which one you want) to this game. Her and some others like pharmercy ruin the whole experience of OW if you want to have fun.
That is bs. People left this game because they are tired of no skill heroes getting free value. All my friends quit this game because they tired of playing heroes like genji or widow only to be lost to a mccree or sym. When I play support I like to be ana because she’s challenging but someone goes moira and plays with their feet and gets free value.
You didn’t even read it, I’d imagine.
snipers take skill and should not be nerfed. just because you don’t like them is not fair to nerf them.
I don’t matter.
But if there something that’s causing the devs to lose more players, instead of gain players.
Then there’s no financial or ethical reason for the devs to keep it.
I’m not that important. But neither are you.
are you spoke person for blizzard? who cares about what gets more money for blizzard? The game should be about skill and improving.
Who cares if the game loses a tiny fraction of players, if it gains more players?
Why are players like you more important?
nah, widow doesn’t belong in the 5v5 scene. Only way to nerf widow is to make it 6v6 and add that second tank so the players round about have the the confidence to cross the map.
I disagree that its skill but that’s just my opinion. You have these battles where its all timing and getting the abilities right, getting in and getting out fast, positioning and placement its all going on both teams having medium to close encounters lasting 30 second a fight its back and forward…then…tap…tap. someone’s widow and the skilful encounter everyone was having is done in a millisecond. That fun, is now gone. Then you look down the bottom left and people are starting to leave the game looking for that battle they just had a second ago. she doesn’t belong in the pool right now as it is.
i care about the game dude. i want it to take skill and be about improving. you dont care about the game. you only care about putting more money in daddy bobby pocket.
That’s nice, but if they could gain 3x players who care about the game, and lose 1x players like you.
Why would it be in the communities best interest to keep people like you?
where are you getting this number from lol. as the game has become less skillful it has lost players. your own number makes no sense. why do you think making it even less skillful will increase players?
Heh, more like I’ve been coordinating with people who are trying to make sure Bobby Kotick gets fired.
[Microsoft/Blizzard Merger] I'm a lot less stressed about it
Widow can get to the point in which the only way to counter her is Winston, D.va or Ball. The rest of her counters become worthless, and so the most important player on a team is required to leave their team to fend off the enemy tank.
Widow simply does not work in 5v5, especially in the context of console where xim Widow is supreme.
Well, if you read this post, I think I have more than enough detail. It’s about 8 paragraphs long, with no filler, and tons of sourced references.
It’s basically a remedial course on the fundamentals of sniper counterplay design.