I think it's safe to say to finally buff the pigman

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If we’re buffing Hog (and we should be) the only place to start is his spread, same as Reaper. Just to help everybody understand, here’s a list of heroes with mid-wide spread, starting at Soldier:

2.4 = Soldier:76
2.7 = Sombra
3.0 = old Sombra
3.6 = Tracer
4.15 = D.va, Torb alt fire
20.1 = Reaper, Roadhog

Reaper and Hog have spread nearly FIVE TIMES WIDER than the next widest spread. There’s so much Room to buff their spread whilst keeping them as the widest, Tommy Wiseau just protested he did not kill Mercy.

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Last comp game I played my team let me start on sombra for 60 seconds, then asked me to switch. :frowning:

I did begrudingly, but I ended up rolling everything as Zarya, and I never play Zarya, so they wanted me to stay Zarya, until we went on defense, then I switched to Orisa.

It seems if I can’t play DPS I’m ok with playing tanks, but I don’t enjoy tanks if the team comp doesn’t favor them.

The hanzo widow meta is irritating at best if you want to play a shield tank, that’s usually when I switch to Roadhog instead, or Zarya.

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I hear how gun-shy you are when playing your comfort pick— don’t ask, just lock her in.

My policy has always been is I’ll play around someone-- we get the Torb? What do I need to do to help? Orisa? Rein? Had many Torb players thank me after the game for the abuse they take, and can imagine that for a lot of people who play mainly one hero

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Ironic though, this season my highest win % in comp is on my one trick Sombra.

5 wins 1 loss so far, :x

Granted I know it’ll never stay like that, but I try to lock her in more now at the start, I’ll switch if people ask me to, but I get most annoyed when I’m the one contributing the most on sombra and people ask me to switch.

That’s what frustrates me more.

In that game where they asked me to switch I had gold elims (granted not hard on sombra) but as far as securing kills, I wasn’t the only DPS on my team.

In any case, I switched to Zarya, and for some reason I just killed everything with Zarya, probably because Sombra is so track aim dependent and I’m a good shot with Zarya’s primary fire I guess.

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Then I wish I had your easy going mentality. I try my damnedest, I still tilt when the game is bad. It’s just not fun. That’s why I started playing dps more often, so I can carry better. Not much you can do with supports if your tanks never create space and your dps never kill anything.

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Hog doesn’t even need much, just more consistency and better against Armor.

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Only 56% hook accuracy?

cough

Not to bad I guess.

Little less than mine, well if we include QP I guess. But meh I don’t do comp much with him.

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It’s a whole team-- some want to do what they want, some don’t.

People have bad games, we all do, some people just throw. I can’t control their choices in game. Might as well just keep it light in the lobby and maybe I’ll influence them making the better choice

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57% on my comp-only hours :slight_smile:

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cough 59% in QP :slight_smile:

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TBH hook accuracy is overrated, you can easily farm 65+ just focusing tanks.

I’ll go for the risky hooks on the supports/dps-- I hover around 55-57%, and make up the rest with good alt fire aim

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I just prefer to dump people in pits, and stress tracers when I hook them and wave to them instead of killing them.

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I reckon that he is fine and people want him to be a “one man apocalypse” again. You can’t change the way he deals damage or how he hooks without it becoming worse for him or becoming too OP again.

He is honestly FINE the way he is currently, this is the honest truth not an opinion.
If he was terrible at killing people, as people suggest all the time, why was he a big presence in top 500 for comp DM? It’s a learning curve to play him well and your team in 6v6 does need to support the Hog, kill his hook targets! A zen discording your Hog hooks also ensures 200-250HP kills too from just the Hog damage via LMB alone if you can’t get your shot right to solo a kill.

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I struggle with the 1 shot kills on him, I know where abouts to aim, but in heat of the fight, I think I forget, I either aim to high, or just don’t get that elusive 1 shot after a hook.

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From what I saw from DM comp, and what I see at higher tiers of play, If it’s 250 HP target try to RMB > Hook > LMB.

If it’s just a 200 HP target Hook > LMB > Melee

You can always RMB > Hook > LMB a 200 HP target too I suppose but the RMB does take some skill or RNG luck imo. Plus you have to remember to do it is the problem, repetition in training yourself how to do the engagement.

I’m not a high tier Roadhog player but I do play him a fair bit in QP for fun, so what I can give you is my observations because I don’t personally dominate with him myself due to forgetting / not caring how to do it properly.

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I find Reinhardt to be my tank of choice for attack on escort maps. Yes, he feels very strong to me and if it wasn’t for Orisa’s ability to shield and break barriers simultaneously I’d play him more on defense too.

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My problem is, ya I’m a sombra one trick, but if I start practicing another character to get good on them, then I lose my skill on Sombra.

Like before I put in about 50+ hours straight on hog before the CC meta, and was good with hog, but it effected how good I was on other characters almost to the point I could only play hog.

:frowning:

Damned if I flex, damned if I don’t flex

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Try imagining how investing time to get good on Hammond will fair for anyone. I have no idea how being good with him will translate with any other Hero in the game currently lol.

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He’s the most mobile tank in the game right now, he can literally hit n run dive by himself and not die, while his team figures out how to play with him.

cough

That is until sombra h4x him of course.

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I know. Hammond doesn’t feel like any other hero in this game, and a lot of the stuff you do instinctually on other heroes doesn’t seem to serve him well.