Double barrier meta is caused by two barrier tanks and Brig shut down Winston and Dva just as much, if not more, realistically. Bro, you are living in 2016, professionals and coaches share their insight nowadays. Dive was objectively a tank driven meta. That is agreed upon by basically everyone who knows what they are talking about. It is not up to debate. You cannot rewrite history.
As for double barrier… At least you have an argument even if I disagree with it. So whatever, you can have that one if you want. But the DPS being played are a result of double barrier and not the other way around. The time line shows that well enough.
You need a support which reduces TTK for your team to dive. So that means Zen.
But, Zen is diveable himself, so, you need to run Lucio back with the Zen as the only chance he has to survive.
No they don’t. Their best way to win the fight is to commit everything on the attack, they CAN’T come back, and more importantly, they shouldn’t come back, they gotta kill their backline…
You know, I actually tend to agree. I don’t think Moira or Baptiste would be very strong against an actual full dive comp, especially with a 200hp drone. You just can’t reliably play a dive comp because winston and dva are absolute trash (there is a case to be made that there’s too much AOE healing to play them too, but whatever). However even Hammond is very strong against Baptiste because he can easily force him to waste his immortality. I’ve noticed that’s what Harb tends to do before his team engages.
You could make a case that it’s hard to justify picking Ana over Baptiste because some might prefer his utility, damage and AOE healing. But if he is op, I don’t think it’s by very much.
His damage output and Immortality field alone are reasons why hes EXTREMELY good right now in ALL comps. He can shred through teams (especially when ults up) + IF is so much more important with lack of shields so a well-placed IF can win you a team fight.
He also does good heals, has mobility and can self heal…
Apart from maybe bey-blade meta back in the day and Double Sniper meta (which obviously was forced, well, by 2 DPS heroes), there was not a single meta forced by DPS heroes. Tanks and supports ALWAYS forced metas. DPS happened to be good against certain metas.
Once again, try picking anything other than a shield tank right now. You will lose. Shield tanks are picked because they are the only viable options in a post-GOATS-DPS-powercreep-role-lock world. Everything else just dies instantly.
There’s more work that could be done in the support role before I’ll agree that it’s actually balanced. Right now you have Mercy who is still a mess for her teammates but great for her own survival sigh, and possibly a little underpowered too. Moira was nerfed in the wrong sense. Baptiste is possibly a bit strong. I’m expecting too much from the balancing/hero design team though.