I really don’t get why the both sides of the whole role queue argument feel so compelled to create these threads on a daily basis. Each of them like they have uncovered some amazing unknown discovery 
This may shock, but no one is forcing anyone to play open or rq and folks enjoy different game modes to suit their taste 
Choice is fantastic and the only real logical argument against a variety of game modes is fragmentation of the player base making longer queues.
Good night
Do people not remember WHY we got 2-2-2 to begin with? This community simply cant handle the freedom to pick whatever they want, we’ve already learned that the hard way, yah open queue is nice when it actually works but when you get 4 DPS players 9 times out of 10 it just isn’t worth it, people never wanna play Tank or Healer so now we have 2-2-2 and its almost objectively better then open queue ever was. Learn to cope with it or get off the game, its that simple.
That’s not happening though.
Where is Dive? Where is Double Shield? Where is Bunker? Where is Pirate Ship?
All that OQ consists of is Goats and non-structured multi-DPS comps.
Until Goats dies, there will continue to be a lack of EFFECTIVE diversity in OQ.
What do you mean “lack of skill”?
How can I be appear super dominant and unstoppable in one game and then completely morph into a bronze player the next?
That has nothing to do with skill. That’s called inconsistency and poor composition balance.
I think a good takeaway from today’s dev video is that “your mileage may vary”. It’s the second most played mode in S. Korea, clearly there’s something good about it for them.
i love the direction they are going personally, will suck since its gonna be gone for a while but hey we got quickplay classic to tide me over till then. although i understand just because i like it doesnt make it the most popular mode so if the devs see no one playing it… it will go away probably
NOW if it turns out open queue is more favorable (i highly doubt it) its gonna stay forever heh
Bahahahaha! No.
Just…no.
Pharah does nothing than feed Zarya charge, and our healers Ult Charge- and feed…
D.Va exists.
Zarya has a 15m range.
Zen and Lucio will shoot you down.
Locking the composition of GOATs isn’t actual GOATs. It’s just a composition.
The strategy and being able to pull it off is what the META of GOATs is.
This doesn’t exist at a sub-masters level except in 6stacks.
Ok. I don’t like 222. Isn’t it great that we can chose ? 
Not when it’s going to (a) divide the community even further and (b) make balance across millions of composition combinations between two entirely separate core competitive modes 10x harder for the dev team.
I’ve gotta say the most bizarre point you make is about there being no creativity. Organised open queue is the best thing in overwatch. Comp Variety is so crucial to this game but 2/2/2 just threw that away. Triple tank, Triple dps, GOATS, Triple Support, Quad dps, Ball solo tank comps, all got thrown in the bin.
You can bash it all you want idc, but if you call open comp lacking in creativity you are blind my dude.
Have you watched the dev update ? Turns out it actually helps queue times. There is no reason for you to get worked up over open comp anymore. Have a nice evening
Constantly seeing the same hero choices through Goats and a repetitive multi-DPS comp is not creative.
And even if it was “creative”, that doesn’t make games fun. If you’re losing miserably or unfairly steamrolling everyone, who honestly cares about how “creative” the team comp is.
I literally said nothing in that post regarding queue times.
Uhm. Ok. Then what is your problem again ? Balance ? How would that affect balance ? It’s the exact same hero pool. Just like with any other game mode. You just love to hate stuff huh ?
yup blind, well I tried. In comparison though, what is creative about 2/2/2? I mean you force the same comps over and over, I mean really atm there is only two viable comps of double shield and deathball. Its not like you couldn’t just run a 2/2/2 comp in open comp? Or am I going crazy?
Because now whenever they want to do a balance change for one particular aspect in one mode, they need to take into account how that would play out in the context of another.
For example, if they give back the goats changes to help tackle the the issue of goats for OQ, then the double shield comp for RQ (ie, one of the worst and non-interactive comps this game had to offer) will make an upsetting comeback.
I’d like to see the sources where it says that Blizzard now balances around 2 different comp modes.
Hint: You will not find it because it would not make any sense.
I see the same pattern with your little chat w/ Ninetales. You just argue for the sake of arguing but you do not have a real point. I’m done here.
Dude that never went away? Double shield is still very much viable.
this has never, ever, ever,ever been true.
dva can solo kill a pharmacy, especially with the buffed boosters
fr people are morons here, acting like orisa sigma is a throwpick when its honestly the 2nd best tank option
There are thousands upon thousands of different composition variations that are available in 222.
I’m willing to bet not one player has come close to even playing a 10th of what 222 can give you.
Nope. Not at all.
And you think the constant 3-2-1 and the same exact heroes every time for Goats is any more “creative”?
Name at least 5 viable comps that don’t get steamrolled by goats.
Yeah because it’s easy to put my hand through a computer monitor and move my teammate’s mouse to select heroes that fits the 222 format.
thats a large number of comps to ask to counter lmao
bunker > goats
bastion punches through sustain, and armor, and shields, and bubbles
This is blatantly and objectively wrong.
Comp variety and creativity has never equaled “good match quality.”
5 supports and 1 damage hero is “creative” but that doesn’t do jack considering a comp like that gets steamrolled by balanced compositions that work.
What the heck lol
Where did you hear this from?
And alright, fine. Make it 3 comps then.
I originally said 5 because “OQ is so creative”