Has anyone looked at Torbjorn's winrate lately?

It’s not only the highest in the game, but it’s the highest in GM. By quite a bit. And his pickrate is going up, too.

Not gonna say he’s overpowered yet, but perhaps we should keep an eye out.

Also, people should be happy to see him on their teams now.

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He has and always will be underrated. Same as Symmetra but I would probably be crucified for saying that.

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I think Sym is going to have a field day when they fix the teleporter railing issue but we’ll see.

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torb always had a good winrate

Yeah, but it wasn’t this good, and his pickrate is 3x what it used to be or more.

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Winrates alone can’t tell the whole story: Symm 1.0 had at some point 70% winrate, reworked Mercy had 49% winrate.

You can’t take winrates alone. Although, unfortunately we don’t have the full data to make propet analysis, only devs do.

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Torb is so great now. I dunno about the turret, but his overload and shotgun are really strong. I feel powerful dueling as him.
I can’t wait till i start figuring out how to use his little death machine too.

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I have to admit he has been a pain in the bottom to kill since this update. He is still not fun to play though.

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He feels that way to me too. Like he has 90% of Reaper’s strengths but is also really versatile and not one-note like Reaper.

As far as fun to play, that must be individual, as I really enjoy playing him. You get some brawler, some builder, even a little marksman play in one hero.

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I can’t find any high ranked play vods of him.

yep, he has the highest win-rate everywhere except in bronze. in GM 60%!

I have never been impressed by win rates. If a heroes win rate is high and their pick rate is low, it tells you exactly what the community thinks of that hero. They are good in certain situations, and terrible in the rest.

But yah, you keep your eye out.

torb is extremely underrated! in any thread in here, when people ask for a flanker counter, no one ever mention torb, yet he is the best flanker counter… (debatable for sombra… turret can’t target her when invisible and if you don’t position it well, it will get EMP’D along your team when she ult.)

Torbjorn counter these heroes for sure:

  • Tracer
  • Genji
  • Reaper
  • Doomfist

He makes their life miserable and can force them to swap.
I’ve lost count of the amount of time i made the ennemy team go hanzo+widow+mccree+soldier76 just to counter me because i was pissing them off too much with torbjorn…

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You can still just walk up and kill her. Any time I have a match where someone knows this I can’t play her. The matches where people don’t know this I can slaughter with her, but it’s not very fun or satisfying because you have to be so ‘hands off’ and basically never put yourself at risk/be too in the mix because you’re so so so so frail and can’t survive any 1v1 with even a healer.

The new torb is so much fun to play. Love overloading and charging down someone with his alt fire. I’m glad the turret takes a back seat.

I do miss the armor cards after a game that I never understood that showed my armor uptime. It was such a weird stat haha

Sombra is hit pretty damn hard by Torbjorn.

Walking up and killing her is going to be a lot harder when the teleporter works and can be used to rapidly access high ground at any time.

I understand this, but by no means is he OP.
His projectiles are still extremely slow and hard to hit, very inaccurate even for the best torbs. Overload is okay, a bit overrated though especially with long cd. Turret is very easily destroyed, mainly in high ranks, his right click is pretty good though. but he has no engagement tool. Molten core is okay… But easily avoidable.

He’s one of those characters that can absolutely destroy some characters in a way that feels really unfair to them. I have a problem with those characters/matchups, because they can feel disproportionately punishing to some characters for no reason.

For instance Rein and Orisa get absolutely obliterated by Molton Core, in way that really other players aren’t punished by. It’s not the same as a D.va bomb because all players can use cover but not all players have say mobility abilities that let them avoid someone spraying lava on their feet and dying pretty much immediately to it.

Then there’s the whole auto aim turret shields thing which is just like a whole other mess, idk. He’s both OP sometimes and underpowered at other times. I’d say the same of Symmetra, though to a much lesser extent. Her turrets are OP but are controlled by there being only three, but her damage output is hobbled because of that.

Torb does have weaknesses but his turret can be so strong when you put it behind two shields that it becomes a bit ridiculous to play against. I’ve seen a lot of Torb / Bastion / Orisa / Rein comps lately and it’s a nightmare, I just am not having fun playing into it at all. I have no suggestions or anything, just a personal preference on this one.

He’s good in his niche scenarios. Not that surprising. Seems okay like that.