Hanzos new sonic arrow buff makes widows ult useless

Its just not the same when discussing a routine medium CD ability versus an ultimate. Imagine that another character had a version of dead eye that maxed out at two targets on a 15s CD. That’s a more similar comparison, Flash Bang is not his ultimate.

Edit: I just want to add that I don’t think its a major deal. Infra-sight is a good ability, but I’ve long been frustrated with how much more available Sonic Arrow is versus it. If I could trade Infra-Sight away entirely for “Sonic Shot” on Widow, I’d take it and just live without an ultimate.

The only real advantage of Infrasight is that it is obvious, and thus can delay a push by 15s.

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For the OP.

This is interesting. I dont think Widow needs anything, I think it could just make them work together even better.

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i dont think theyed get rid of infra-sight since it really helps her with her sniping. but maybe they can buff her in different ways

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Hanzo will be the utility sniper while widow is more deadly and more reliable due to being hitscan.

Having them work together will be a nightmare at higher skill levels.

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TBH, you get widow not for her ult. You get her because she can quite literally one-shot 200 hp heroes consistently at long range, and take a solid chunk of hp from tanks, as well as being an absolute menace in giving pressure to the enemy.

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She can do 300 damage at full charge with a headshot, and is hitscan. Hanzo does 250 max damage with a projectile that has falloff. Widow will likely still be better at longer ranges, but maybe we’ll finally have a choice between two snipers instead of an actual sniper - widow, and a close range sniper - Hanzo.

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If by falloff, you mean effected by gravity. He doesn’t have damage falloff.

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The ‘delete’ button would be a start.

Infra-sight is essentially a ‘make the whole enemy team more cautious for 15 seconds’ button.

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widow ult can pretty powerful since it can stop ambushes and she can get it back pretty fast with a few headshots. the reason its not flashy is that widow herself does alot of damage so they balance that out by give her a less flashy ult. she also has many sprays with her wearing it and she uses it in the alive “short”. the visor itself goes very well with her spider motif and her Summer skin turns her visor into sunglasses which is hilarious since when she activates her ult, all she does is pull them down which is funny

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GET OUT! Really? That’s so clever. Never noticed that before. Haha.

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We haven’t even seen the new sonic arrow…already complaints about it…

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I wish they would delete Hanzo tbh.

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But with infrasights everyone on the enemy team at least knows they’re being watched. Not with sonic arrow though, if you dont see the enemy hanzo shooting it or are not close enough to hear his voice line you have no idea he’s watching you cross that small gap. So in away that “surprise” factor gives it a slight advantage

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What about giving widow 25 armour for the duration of infrasight? i mean, it is a helmet! :joy:

It’s not much, but it would help with that genji or tracer that’s about to jump you.

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Who the hell picks widow for her ult lol

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Hold judgment until you see it.

In the same post, Jeff announced that Sonic Arrow is getting its wall-hack radius reduced. That means that it’ll see less of everyone, unless the arrow is physically embedded into a Hog or Rein.

This could end up being a buff for Widow, whose global presence would start carving out a niche and make it more valuable than Sonic Arrow, despite having a lower overall up-time per match.

Possibly. We have to wait to see it.

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You say this jokingly but I like this idea! Maybe even 50 armor. It’ll allow her to be more aggressive without having to worry about getting wasted and she can even pop it and hop on the objective from time to time to stall while Widow76ing everyone.

They haven’t told us the numbers yet. We’ll see sometime this month.

That is what I mean, projectile falloff I guess? idk what to call it

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It means Hanzo has to be a lot more careful where he puts his sonic, he’ll need to target specific areas rather than entire choke points