Ohhhh, that’s why I can’t hit shots anymore…
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I could go with a revert to speed provided Storm Arrows loses its tankbuster properties. You just can’t have a hero that can challenge snipers, access high grounds, a small dash and then a tank busting cooldown.
Personally I’d go with the speed back up and drop Storm Arrows down to 3 shots. That’s 210 damage before crits for 3 hits, meaning if you hit a primary fire + Storm arrows, squishies are still screwed, but Hanzo is less likely to fork up a barrier or a tank by spamming their thiccboxes.
Given how Blizz just buffed his Storm Arrows back up to 70 per shot again… I don’t think that’s the direction they want to go with him.
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All they had to do was give him reverse fall off on primary and storm, it’s a bow it even makes sense.
Literally just copy paste the Mccree falloff line, copy it into hanzo’s file, and turn “>” into “<“ (or vice versa), then of course tweak the values a little.
I could do it, and I’m a moron.
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Hanzo and widow are both fundamentally broken.
The ability to 1 shot someone with little to no warning from across the map is innately broken, so balancing these champs is really tricky
idk, i think hanzo is fine, i’m kinda ok with him needing to predict well to hit hard shots.
i mean i manage to headshot a grapple slingshotting widow as hanzo from across the map, i don’t think that should be a given that i should be able to do that every single time though.
Overwatch isn’t a MOBA.
It’s an FPS.
One shots have always been a thing in this genre. And even then,Widow and Hanzo are pretty tame compared to what gameplay is like in other FPS games.
For example: Valorant and other tactical shooters.
Sniper rifles can one shot with a bodyshot and they do not require charge up like Widow and Hanzo.
Shotguns can one tap you in close range.
Assault rifles can almost-one shot you if you get headshot.
Etc.
Imagine if Soldier could two-shot people with his gun. People would be outraged.
Edit: Also,other FPS games usually DON’T have any ways to avoid/counter one shots. Those games don’t have access to easy healing,high mobility,barriers,CC/stuns,etc.
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Overwatch isn’t a MOBA or an FPS.
That’s the beauty of it. It’s a chaotic mix of the two genres.
Only if you’re ok with damage fall off
He can’t have hitscan like Arrows and be able to kill things at long ranges, you gotta pick one. I’d say 20 meters is the ideal range to be playing Hanzo at anyhow
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Or let it 5 and he can’t head shot with it, and revert arrow speed I’m okay to feel less spamzo sometimes.
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Yeah and the in the past two years,the MOBA elements have gotten so out of control that they became the “dominant” elements.
It’s supposed to be a “healthy mix” of those genres.
But instead it became a way less enjoyable version of Paladins.
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Yeah but he’ll lose so much shield/tank busting
you still get a quick 210 instead of 350 and to make for difference you can take one charged shot and you would be 340.
I don’t know about you but when I get 1 shotted from a mile away by a very balanced french lady I don’t exactly yell “YES, THIS MOBA GAME IS EPIC”
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Agree that was the good part of the buff widow feel insecure and contestly challenged by good Hanzo, now she is queen of ultra longue range.
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The better question is: why isn’t your team contesting the Widow? lmao
Are there no barrier tanks?
What about taking cover in general?
It’s not Widow being “OP” if your entire team is within her LoS standing still with no protection and/or nobody is harassing her. It’s your team being dumb as bricks.
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i agree. projectile speed is annoying atm. it was a big nerf which is made hanzo spammer. it was more sniper before. you are just shooting luckly.
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Why do you think that is, and what should be done about it?
With all the power creep going on right now he really needs it. Specially when we have this broken genji around
Because the community is full of whiny players who would rather complain until the hero they don’t like gets nerfed into oblivion than learn how to play against them.
It happened with Sombra,Symmetra,it might happen to Moira and who knows what else.
Widow and Hanzo have had their one shots since DAY ONE and they were considered F tier throw picks for the first year of the game’s life. Many players,myself included,got harassed for playing them 
And fact of the matter is,they only became viable/“dominant” because of overpowered supports like unnerfed Mercy 2.0 or OG Brig.
For crying out loud,people complained about Hanzo’s Scatter Arrow because they hated playing against it and so Blizzard reworked him. But despite being slightly weak statistically,he’s still hated. If Hanzo and Widow got reworked so they lose their one shots…what then? What’s the guarantee that you people will shut up about them? You all will just move to another thing to complain about.
Also,fun fact: In January of this year,Hanzo was just fine statistically. He had a roughly 4% pickrate on ladder with a 50% winrate. But he still received received nerfs to his projectile speed and Storm Arrow damage for no reason.
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Let’s make this happen! Give the real shimada love
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