Hack should stop Echo's floating too

It’s pretty unfair I, as Pharah, plummet to the ground when hacked but Echo doesn’t…

Just yet another way Echo outclasses Pharah

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Y’all should be more specific when talking about “Echo’s Float” because there are two distinctions with this word.

  1. Glide, passive, requires a button press, and is hacked.
  2. The duration based segment of Flight, which is similar to Mercy in Valkyrie, and does not get hacked. This is also intentional, as stated by Jeff.

#1 is the topic at hand if I’m reading it correctly, and that is also not disabled with hack for some reason.

See her wings, its like a hang glider. Nothing to hack. So it just allows her to glide down. Pretty simple and logical.

Does hacking Torbjorn during his overload break him out of that?

Edit: I just reread and her passive definitely should be canceled.

Actually in my mind’s eye Echo’s Flight feels a lot more similar to D.Va’s jet booster than anything. Fast mobility, can be self canceled early, cooldown based.

The Glide passive is what OP is referring to anyway, which is separate from Flight.

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Make hack not stop any passive/non-ability and it’ll all be solved :slight_smile:

Jeff already said this was intended and I agree with him.

Hack prevents you from USING an ability. Floating isn’t an ability on your E, Q or SHIFT keys.

honestly, mechanics need to be consistent across the board or theres no point. hack should certainly affect echo more than it does.

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This isn’t true at all, since mercy’s ultimate is a transformation ultimate…but they’re not talking about her shift. They’re talking about her passive, which should be in line with all other passives of this type and get cancelled by hack.

because she’s not holding down a button to help her fly.

it’s press and forget. once she starts flying, it’s over and done with.

it isn’t the same as angelic descent or pharah’s hover where she’s holding [jump key here].

No, thank you, I am fine with hack not screwing Echo as hard as it messes up other heroes. Rofl.

I’m pretty sure it’s an oversight, Blizzard, any official comment?

Nope. A similar thread to this popped up and Jeff confirmed not being able to hack flight and glide is intentional.

Im pretty sure jeff said this was intentional for echo when someone made a topic about this when she came out

Edit: yup he did

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/issues-with-echo-will-update-as-they-come-up/487789/10

Explaining it does not make it fine. No matter how it’s coded, flight and hover is a buttonpress ability and there should get disabled when hacked.

If you want your mind boggled further, by the way, here’s an orange post saying that Echo continuing to fly when hacked is intended:

She is if you set it to “hold to fly” in her options menu. I think many people do it that way because it’s easier to do glide slingshots like that.

Neither is Pharah’s hover, Mercy’s angelic descent, or Lucio’s wallride.

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You mean it actually doesn’t? I haven’t played either of those since Echo came out, so I wouldn’t know their interaction, but I just assumed it’s a no-brainer. So made hack disable flying, wall-climbing, wall-riding and passive song effects (making Lucio non-exist after hack) and and you’re letting Echo fly while hacked? What is this favoritism? She’s already eats shields like it’s nothing and has two healthbars on her ult, and now also this?

Yeah, I literally didn’t even know this was a thing, because I thought we already established rules of hacked flying already. Guess Jeff proved me wrong.

Yeah, but more specifically, if it cancels Mercy float, it should cancel Echo float.

As they are near identical abilities.

Does Mercy really stop floating? Or does she lose her boost only? I can’t remember.
Also, hover isn’t a passive, it’s active therefore she falls out of the sky. Mercy just spreads her wings to float, I assume that still works during hack.