That seriously counts as an argument? “He was in decent shape, but as part of a synergy rather than the specific way I wanted him to work so the stats don’t count”?
If so I have a LOT of buffs to suggest for Mercy and Rein with zero nerfing because they don’t fit my vision for hard carry solo classes.
??? Why tf did 0eople ask for nerfs to a hero which can effectively disable a hero from goats and make it weaker??
Look at the stats? They have Ana as the most picked
Or you could listen to the words of the Pros, people in GM, or even the devs. They all agreed he was under performing.
I’m saying people are idiots for mindlessly following the stats. The context is statistics 101.
Did a past relative of yours invent the pretzel? Because you really twisted my words there
I never said the stats didn’t count, I just said you can’t get the full picture by mindlessly looking at them like a dog looks at a bone. You need to look at the context to understand the stats and the context, in this case, shows Ana at the top who provides the nano for nanoblade, one of the strongest combos in the game.
The goal of the buffs was to make him less reliant on nano to get value. The issue that we are currently seeing is that they forgot to take a look at that combo.
I apologize for the rather aggressiveness of the post 
Forums want the game to be balanced for Gold and below only 
You know, the ranks where every single hero is viable. So take the “He’s been viable for forever” with a grain of salt.
Yes, but that’s irrelevant. The fact is that Genji was in a good place before the buffs, therefore applying them with no compensation nerfs made him oppressive if not downright op.
You’re in a thread claiming he was trash and replying to people who pointed out that per the stats he was not trash. Your value judgement regarding the “context” of the stats is meaningless in the face of the demonstrable reality they show. The fact that you do not like the manner in which Genji was not trash is not valuable information.
Eh, there are less viable heroes the further down you go. I do not believe that is too bad, a testament to the fact that they do vaguely balance the game… kind of.
The context isn’t relevant? That’s statistics 101.
The context is extremely relevant. You’re in a thread where people are demonstrating that Genji was not trash by showing stats - you’re trying really hard to ignore that context in order to push a claim that is unrelated.
Ok, and I’m giving you the context of the stats and explaining how they make Genji’s stats inflate and you are ignoring that.
But also the competing DPS
I get it, I didnt say he didn’t deserve anything, but they buffed him a lot
he wasnt trash he was just average for a dps. now he is face roll easy and OP
That’s not “inflation” any more than Lucio becoming meta and his pickrate going up is inflation. Genji performed well as part of a synergy. Since that synergy is often present he is often not trash. As shown by the stats.
This willfully ignoring parts of a conversation thing is fascinating coming from a dude who claims to be all about context, but who on earth do you think you’re fooling? Do you actually think I’m going to get hit in the head mid conversation, forget the actual topic and somehow get sucked into your endless cycle of empty logic?
If you look everywhere yes, but at the top he was only a blade bot sitting in the middle of the pack. I like the direction of this change, but no nerf to his ult cost sucks
While you’re not wrong that doesn’t change his viability.
Now you can argue that it’s bad design and should be fixed by moving that power to his base kit. That’s fine. He shouldn’t be dependent on Ana.
To argue that he’s not viable because you dislike that he was essentially an ult bot? Eh…we clearly have a different view of what balance and viability mean.
Genji has not been trash. He’s been average. Just because upper ranks want to pretend only like 7 dps exists does not make him trash.
It is
Inflate means to increase something by a large or excessive amount.
His pickrate most likely inflated due to Ana since but to a lesser extent since he had a pretty low pickrate even with Ana being present.
What we are talking about is the hero, not the combo. Genji by himself doesn’t have nanoblade, it’s not in his kit. His kit without the help of nano was terrible and that’s why they buffed it. Now they probably went a little overboard but that doesn’t mean he didn’t need buffs.
Yeah. that’s the point of the buffs. Make him less reliant on Ana
That would be true if there was a tradeoff and his ult nerfed. As for now he’s still dependent on Ana for his full potential but also significantly stronger without nano blade.
Well yeah, which is why I personally think that the combo needs to get looked at.
Symmetra, being kindda good for one week while doing her things.
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