Good thing the GM stats prove you wrong, then. Not that you people seem to be able to argue based on facts and hard data. Just pure salt.
gm stats for the last 6 months before his buffs put him as a barely average character statistically, and a below average one when you look at the game from a meta stand point
the hell are you even on about.
They put him at average, doing perfectly fine. Anything else is your own fabrication. Actual data > your salt.
not in a pickrate stand.
hes picked so little that his winrate is obviously bloated.
remember that those stats are bloated from his pickrate now and put him at barely average
meaning before they were worse due to his spike in popularity
that is objectively true.
meaning by your own statements genji was objectively bad, seeing that hes being boosted to barely average now with his popularity.
youd have to be stupid to not see that.
No. That is not what the data is actually saying. Please stop trying to incorrectly interpret simple numbers and then make wild claims that fly in the face of objective truth.
You are wrong. You will never be right, because you are intentionally spewing untruths completely rendered null by pure facts.
so his pickrate for the last 6 months all of a sudden not showing exactly what the data says?
his average pickrate for the last 6 months with his current near must pick state.
that has to be pushing the pickrate overall up. that is objectively true.
pure facts literally point out exactly what I say. you just don’t have the intellect to see it.
im not spewing untruths, youre just trying to be blind to the truth of the matter.
Bliz has no idea how to balance a hero. The way they buff genji made him the dumbest DPS to farm SR until at least Masters
This is like trying to argue physics with a flat-Earther. You’re literally not capable or just not willing to understand the science. You’ve got your stance and you’re gonna stick to it, facts be damned!
I’m officially dismissing your claims as the bunk they provably are.
its basic math says exactly what im saying.
if he has average stats before, and is greatly op now and has the stat boost he has now, his previous time would start to push into the above average territory.
he is barely average in the last 6 months with his current stat boost. meaning he had to have been below average before.
“facts be damned” is you not me. and that’s why rather than try and push a counter point you just simply try to write me off claiming I don’t understand the “science” of a mathematical issue. your terminology alone shows you literally don’t understand the ideas you are trying to push.
Wrong.
If you’re only finding Genji ‘usable’ in his current state, you’re just bad at him. That would also explain why you had so much trouble with him before, too.
im a 4.5k player, and I got there on the back of genji.
im far from bad. especially on genji, I didn’t have any trouble before. but me being insane, doesn’t change the objective balance of genji.
stop.
So much for “hasn’t been a usable dps for 2 years” then. What you meant was “hasn’t been meta for 2 years” - to which I say: Who cares? You got to 4.5k on Genji. He was clearly usable.

So much for “hasn’t been a usable dps for 2 years” then. What you meant was “hasn’t been meta for 2 years”.

lol hasn’t been a usable dps for 2 years meta wise “average”
youd have to literally be stupid to not see exactly what I wrote down.
I literally said hasn’t ben usable meta wise in the statement you replied to.
you cant even read. stop trying to tell me im wrong.
So you want Genji to be a meta pick every 6 months? Grow up.
Things don’t need to be meta, they need to be viable. Genji was viable. He wasn’t bad. You said so yourself.
Goodbye.
lmao you change your entire point when proven wrong and tell me to grow up, hilarious.
rather than admit youre wrong and misread you try and pivot to a different point.
gtfoh.
and no I don’t care what happens in this game. I really don’t, ive moved on to valorant, and could care less about OW.
I just love pointing out the blatant bias and hypocrisy on these forums.
Genji was ready a viable pick, now he is just pure broken

they need to be viable. Genji was viable. He wasn’t bad. You said so yourself.
actually his stats from before are being boosted by his current state, so you aren’t even right here in your “gotcha” moment.
in order for his stats to be average now, with his current near must pick status, they would have to have been bad before.

lmao you change your entire point when proven wrong and tell me to grow up, hilarious.
rather than admit youre wrong and misread you try and pivot to a different point.
gtfoh.
and no I don’t care what happens in this game. I really don’t, ive moved on to valorant, and could care less about OW.
I just love pointing out the blatant bias and hypocrisy on these forums.
You’re the one that took my original post where I said Genji was average for the last 2 years and started talking about the meta - a full 4 days later, I might add.
If you don’t even play Overwatch anymore, why are you here - just to troll? That’s kind of sad. Maybe you should go play your CS:GO clone some more - maybe they’ve added another rip-off of de_dust!
Genji was not below average. Josh Noh actually confirmed that winrate wise he even was above average.
Dropping by with a fun fact! Looking at GM players for the current patch (1.43), Genji and Soldier: 76 are #6 and #7 in terms of win rate for damage heroes (out of 16 total). They’re not doing quite as poorly as the general community sentiment would imply. Game balance perceptions/opinions are often repeated and perpetuated enough that they start to become accepted as fact by many players. We also should remember that things like win rates and hero power/effectiveness can fluctuate significan…
Why do people hate genji and he is too op? Let me tell you
-High Mobility (Hard to hit)
-Small body
-Can deflect
-Can rush every god damn time somoene dies and takes dmg
-Dragonblade charges too fast and if nano its basicly 1 hit kill and easily can get a quintuple. (You can use 2 nanos with genji in less than 1 minute)
-With the buff he kills everything it moves. He now has +30 attack every hit he does. (Basicly shoot and swift strike = kill, now repeat and you get easily 3 kills)
No counters for genji, with moira and brigitte getting nerfed to oblivion there is currently no counters for him, and people are getting crazy because there is always 1 genji in every match.
-Too much dmg.
Yeah he needs a nerf. Do you know why smurfs always use Widow, Genji and McCree? Because they can easily do a quintuple with them, and this is was before the buff.