Genji Change I have compiled from across the form

that might make people happy across the board but probably not

Shurikens:
give back the 6 he lost and give them 1 damage

Dash:
Up its cooldown to 9 second

Deflect:
melee attacks do 40% damage instead of nothing

Dragon blade:
Damage increased to 130
time increased to 7 second
no longer can benefit from damage-boosting ability

This is just a compilation of what I have seen from all the different forms about this and I think this could work could not what your thought?

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Genji not being in C tier? Are you out of your mind? Do you wish to trigger all the Mercy one-tricks into unleashing hell on these forums?

I’ve been a Genji main since season 4-5 OW1 and the conclusion I’ve come to is that Genji will never be playable for more than 1 month in this game. Low ranks are always spamming these forums against Genji just because of their incompetence to deal with him.

Now that they managed to get him nerfed I will start dropping accounts to silver and stomping everyone as payback, that’s how immature I feel they are about Genji, that’s how immature I will be against them.

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It is literally impossible for any of you to understand that Blizzard will always nerf him down while he is a problem in low ranks?

Because that is where most of their players are, and where their new players go?

You want him viable in high ranks, but the only way you will be able to get that is by changing what makes him too strong in low ranked play.

While they have to nerf him down, so they don’t break low ranked play, he will be never able to stay strong in high ranks.

So cry about skill issues or whatever, until you start working on fixing the reason Blizzard does this, you won’t get anywhere.

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Does the 1 damage effect any break points?

Ngl I think this would be a bit much both the 130 and extra second duration
Also incoming ranulf/hanqz complaining you’re basically hard nerfing mercy/Ana :rofl:

I always thought it should be this way. It’s incredibly annoying and frustrating when Genji gets caught super close to someone with no way to escape and is on a sliver of health, uses deflect and makes himself immune to quick melee and then dashes away.

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I think it gets you back the fan melee combo on 200 hp targets it’s pretty niche.
Wait actually it doesn’t its only 168 dmg.

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Actually no
28×2 = 56 and then times 3 is 168 so even with melee that’s not a oneshot combo
Going from 27 to 28 isn’t worth anything imo

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Any? It destroys all his breakpoints:

  1. You can no longer kill Reaper with right click headshot + dash + melee, this is beyond ridiculous. Reaper is basically a tank for genji.
  2. Right click headshot + melee on 200 hp target no longer kills them.
  3. Left click headshot and 1 shuriken bodyshot does not longer kill 200 hp target

There’s 1-2 more which I can’t remember atm, but basically this 6 dmg nerf is not little considering I used to able to get gold damage and now it’s 1/15 games.

They could just revert ammo reduce and buff blade to 120 again and it will be ok though.

They currently do 27.

Adding 1 point brings them to 28. 28x3x2 = 168. Add a melee, youre doing 198. Add a swift strike youre doing 248.

2 damage effects a lot of break points.

1 does not- Which is why I was asking, why 1 damage?

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from 29 to 27 it broke like 3-4 breakpoints, that’s enough to drop the hero 1 tier at least.

248 with 3 headshots + melee + dash still doesn’t kill a DPS hero (reaper), unacceptable considering you can’t animation cancel the dash + melee since season 1-2 ow1, so if you do rightclick + dash then turn melee, there’s a good chance he’ll be in wraith form or have gotten heal by then.

If you look back and compare OW1 season 1 genji to OW2 season 2 genji, the ONLY buffs he’s gotten is:

  • faster hit recovery (he can attack like 12% faster or sth)
  • deflect cancel (which u could still do if you were half decent at the hero)

Some of the nerfs (only SOME):

  • removed triple jump (hero is trash vs flying characters ever since)
  • damage (an assassin which can’t oneshot other dps, huh?)
  • dash bleed effect (perhaps this was in beta? idk this was OP anyway since u could apply to everyone)
  • deflect hitbox
  • ultimate damage nerf (if a kiriko/ana are pocketing a 200 hp target, it’s impossible to kill them unless you’re damage boosted, a joke)
  • ultimate duration nerf

(- 234234 CC abilities added to the game + no aim heroes which sort of counter genji)

Yet despite all this, it’s still not enough for noobs to understand that you’re losing to genji cause you’re bad and not cause the hero is strong. Genji was ‘ok’ before the last nerfs, now he’s basically unplayable unless in very specific situations in specific maps. The all-around hero that was used to describe genji and tracer I’m afraid only applies to tracer now.

People would be happy if this was like CSGO, shoot + hide only since they dislike any abilities that don’t involve a gun + shooting.

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I get it. And everything else you’re saying

But

OP is asking for one point of damage, not 2.

Which is why I’m asking- why is he asking for one. One point doesn’t change anything really.

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Ah my bad, didn’t notice you’re referring to OP’s changes I thought you’re talking about the ones Blizzard implemented.

Yet hog is left as the best ladder climing hero in the game im sorry his win rate was average in low ranks

No but it helps with cleaning up heal kills if needed after we can up it back to 29 but you can still combo it with dash

How does it nerf mercy and ana the can boost someone else

Its a net buff and wont really make genji any better. The only thing genji really needs is his ammo going back up and his ultimate doing 120 again. I don’t think he needs any damage to be honest, as for his deflect, its fine too. We have so many beams in the game now that deflect is actually quite easy to counter now. Nothing hurts genji more than facing a team full of sym, zarya and moira all in the same team.

We will talk about this as soon as supports get meaningful buffs.

Until then no thanks.

Support are in a great spot exept brig im sorry you getting killed but really what do oyu want support have self heal abilities to heal them self or get away fast make them self invincible what mkre do you want

1 nerf flankers 2 nerf one shots

i want to enjoy a game where i don’t have to play, hide and seek/respawn simulator every game…

I never have that problem when i play support but im a lucio main when it comes to support genji for dps and rein for tank but been trying out ramatra as lucio i love bullying the dps tank i jun in boop back off shot then wall ride never touching to ground i thin the problem is people play 2-dimensionally and not 3-dimensionally and you will lose to phara genji lucio widow hanzo winstom echo if you cant learn to look up but i did come from titan fall so im used to it

Also it sound like you want it to just be sojourn and mcree

Right, but Blizzard won’t see him as a problem in low ranks (I think) because he isn’t a constant problem for new players.

They have to be a lot more careful around heroes which end up with crazy high pick rates.

As it is they are also nerfing Hog in the next day or so.