Fixed in new patchnotes Sombra Casttime nerf is alot bigger

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There isn’t anything to apologise

What? You called me idiot not only once for not trusting your wrong numbers, and no it was pretty clear it would not be 0.65s that was clear cause the behavior of emp before and after! You assumed a whole new behavior, while they didn’t change that. And that’s what I said all the time, already at my first 3 posts
That it’s a bug that your long period was the new behavior was much clearer. I mean there is a bug in their patch notes at least every 2nd patch… on the ptr patchnotes. So yes the patch notes being wrong was more likely already from the start

Also this 0.5s should have been a notice for you that they used wrong numbers, but you only assumed one number is wrong, not the other too you called me out more then often for not understanding that and you didn’t prove that you top video happened another time

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What? You called me idiot not only once for not trusting your wrong numbers, and no it was pretty clear it would not be 0.65s that was clear cause the behavior of emp before and after

From the evidence at that point your random assumptions where just wrong and had no base. only after you actually brought the video’s that it was an actuall discussion.
Obv I assumed it was a bug considering its inconsistency.
Then when we had workshop (and the bug got fixed as far as I know) we tested it and I said I was wrong and I edited my post to reflect that.

That it’s a bug that your long period was the new behavior was much clearer.

What would be stupit to assume when we had dev confirmation.

So yes the patch notes being wrong was more likely already from the start

Not in any way… You logic makes 0 sense

Also this 0.5s should have been a notice for you that they used wrong numbers, but you only assumed one number is wrong, not the other too you called me out more then often for not understanding that and you didn’t prove that you top video happened another time

And this confirms that you did not understand the original purpes of my thread.

Okey I will now make something clear:

You will not get an apoligy out of me out of the following reasons:

1. The amount of times you moved the goalposts is hilarious you just kept moving then till something was wrong out of my (with a disclaimer) inaccurate testing
2. its clear your just trying to find something to blame me for
3. In every point of the discution, I was on the logical side while you just took whatever was the opposite of that
4. Out of like 10 assumptions you made 2 where right in the other 8 I was.

Your literally trolling you won’t get a reply from me anymore unless its so rediculous that its funny.

I already said I was wrong about the 0.65s I already said that and you still want more? even tho at the time it was the logical case now it isn’t anymore and I changed because of it.

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The amount of times you moved the goalposts

Ok Frist, quote ne were I changed anything I said once, you won’t find it, I didn’t move anything anywhere

ts clear your just trying to find something to blame me for

You lied, obviously I want you to admit it, it’s so clear you lied but you deny it

every point of the discution, I was on the logical side while you just took whatever was the opposite of that

That’s the point, you to this date weren’t, if you were I would have understood it at first try, but I didn’t cause I knew that emp always had the behavior of hacking as soon as purple animation starts. That is still the case, you showed one bug that I couldn’t reproduce and I think you lied when you said you reproduced it 4 out of 10 cause I got it 0 out of 30.

Out of like 10 assumptions

Oh your lying again, tell me m, where are my 10 assumptions.

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Ok Frist, quote ne were I changed anything I said once, you won’t find it, I didn’t move anything anywhere

First you said the animation wasn’t reliable which it was aslong as it wasn’t bugged which it was not that you knew that at that point.

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your second vidoe shows nothing, and this hacked animation is also not reliable. Try it, its showing after you got hacked. The hacked happens at the start of her pruple animation, right at the start. and everyone gets it instantly yes i call it hitscan cause it doesn’t travel, but only looks for los.

You then said my correction was wrong which it wasn’t

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you even added time, but errors are always in the ±

Then you said its the pings fault which it wasn’t

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you don’t account for your ping

Then you where right here:

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PLEASE READ THIS FIRST @SchWiniX

hey, i just tried it myself, and something is really off with your hack, your video clearly shows something completly different then mine.
Mine: At the time she raises the hand to spread them out, the bot is already hacked.

Uploading video for it, i tried it multiple times, i have 9ms more ping then you. but 230fps or so. Can you acutally try to get more fps? SO that it could be that the animation is time depended? Cause the timing is so much off… Video is uploaded. But cant empty links.

youtu .be/MQLkhpod9HM

Which I assumed to be a bug considering we got confirmation

Then you went n about you ilogical concluation about why the short version is the right. (Which it was still was ilogical at that time)

Then you went on to claim that activation time = Recovery time which makes 0 sense.

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i still think they ment overall cast time

And then we had workshop.

And that isn’t even everything just what I found by quicky looking over it.

How can you even think you where right from the beginning if so many of your assumations where wrong but you just kept on moveing to the next?

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You lied, obviously I want you to admit it, it’s so clear you lied but you deny it

I didn’t I made an assumtion based on the date avalible and chose the most logical one there is nothing wrong with that while with your behavier there is keep on moveing the goalpost till something in my test (Which had a disclammer of being inaccurate) is wrong only to then call me a liar.

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That’s the point, you to this date weren’t, if you were I would have understood it at first try, but I didn’t cause I knew that emp always had the behavior of hacking as soon as purple animation starts. That is still the case, you showed one bug that I couldn’t reproduce and I think you lied when you said you reproduced it 4 out of 10 cause I got it 0 out of 30.

I was always on the logical side if you think other whise then I will just be here confused with what your thinking but I guess we need to agree to disagree…

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Oh your lying again, tell me m, where are my 10 assumptions.

There are 5 just above. 4 from this thread 1 from another and there are by far not all of the wrong assumations you made.

I most definetly never lied I was only wrong which I said way earlier.
And most definetly I do not own you an apoligy

Also a mod probably will close this soon considering we are just in a 5 year old No you lied contest can we stop?

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First you said the animation wasn’t reliable which it was aslong as it wasn’t bugged which it was not that you knew that at that point

It still isn’t you can test it yourself with your workshop and frame recording.

You then said my correction was wrong which it wasn’t

In this quoted text nothing is wrong.

Then you said its the pings fault which it wasn’t

I didn’t , but read again, I said you don’t know what happening on the other side! And there ping could be the fault!

Thanks for telling me basically you didn’t understand a single reason of mine you didn’t even try to understand me or.

All this critics from you above are from your standpoint, and there is your mistake.

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It still isn’t you can test it yourself with your workshop and frame recording.

It is now reliable it wasn’t back then but you didn’t knew that you just assumed random things.

In this quoted text nothing is wrong.

Sure is that correction always needs to be added never subtracted you even said later that you understand it…

I didn’t , but read again, I said you don’t know what happening on the other side! And there ping could be the fault!

Which is literally Goalpost moving…

I said X you said no because M

I said can’t be because A

you said but N

I said can’t be because B

etc
etc
till you got it right and know you come here saying I was right from the beginning.

I made one you made atleast 5 for sure there is no arguing that well im done playing kindergarden with you by.

Sometimes I ask myself why do I anwser such people…

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It is now reliable it wasn’t back then but you didn’t knew that you just assumed random things.

And again it isn’t till today, try it! You didn’t understand that point at all.

till you got it right and know you come here saying I was right from the beginning.

Your mistakenly think that emp hits the people and they get hacked afterwards, no. EMP instantly hacks everyone in the area of effect, there is no projectile happening. In your video, around 0:00:43 the EMP is casted, at that time, the enemie is already hacked. We need to test that correctly if i have my ptr downloaded. MY internet isn’t that fast. But saying it’s 0.65s is a false assumption

I was right already at my very first post
I did not move the goalposts, I was telling you why video testing it like this lets out like All variables you need to really test it and told you how you need to test it to get a reliable source

[SchWiniX-2357]

Wow it hilaroise to see that you really didn’t read anything I replied you 6days… Go on think your right you will probably be the only one when they read the whole thread I stopped caring about the obv bs you let loose.

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When someone reads it, they will see your lies and your dishonesty. I was right, from Beginn to end. You didn’t disprove a single point of mine but i disproved first your video and right after the whole number. Oh and TobiasAlec and your lack of math skills.

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Called it