[Feedback Thread Continued Part III] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018

[Racillian-1752]

All in all, I was referring to it as a food chain. Pick up Ana, she gets nerfed. So, pick up Lucio, he gets nerfed. So, pick up Mercy, she gets reworked and nerfed. Pick up Moira because she is an engaging and fun main healer.

Then Moira gets nerfed… then Brigette becomes the one… then Brigette gets nerfed… and then hopefully by that point there’s another healer made.

[sprite-12678]

I mean, Blizzard haven’t acted on Moira despite the constant posts. I hope she stays mostly intact. Brigitte got one nerf, but she might be okay. Please Blizz, don’t suck the fun out of them.

[Promephius-2624]

I didn’t say that. I said that this was the case with Mercy 2.x not 1.x.

Mass Res didn’t required you to have Mercy as well.

So you just refused to accept it as the way it was.

Mercy was nothing more than a minigame of hide and seek and the team that had the mercy that was better at hiding won.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Moira received small nerfs, like longer cooldown on Fade ability.

[sprite-12678]

Ohh really? I don’'t think I noticed those Well, she still seems to be alright which is good!

[Racillian-1752]

I agree. If blizzard wants to keep res a part of her kit, it needs to be an ultimate. If not, they need to remove res and give her an ability that is actually good at doing something that flows with her kit.

That’s what I’m saying, but it appears that those who didn’t like Mass Rez seeming like being solo Rezzed on “E”, but its ok to ignore the enemy Mercy, so everything is peachy now.

A freebie “E” Rez that screws over the flow of the rest of Mercy’s mobility kit. It would be better gone then this iteration.

[Brawl-2310]

Mercy was nothing more than a minigame of hide and seek and the team that had the mercy that was better at hiding won.

The worst way to play her, only carried to GM by boosted Mercy players. Unfortunately, it got rewarded with high SR gains. I never saw a hiding Mercy win in my games, especially if i played Tank.

Also, I know from a GM/T500 player that it was easier to deal with hiding Mercy’s which only play for the res than with me keeping everyone alive while moving all the time.

[Hauven-2768]

And a good number of people have most likely given up complaining as they felt they didn’t get heard or get anywhere with doing so. PTR feedback saying this initial re-work was a mistake (overpowered) was ignored, all PTR feedback following that was still ignored for a long while. Here we are today, finally with a Mercy that’s not overpowered but at the same time underwhelming and still ignored.

[Cleopatra-21937]

She is safe, as long as Mercy still remains common pick. If Mercy falls, Moira is next for big nerfs.

[Roseblite-1958]

Because she was a must pick and you refuse to admit it.

Before Rework Mercy was considered a TROLL pick, especially Mercy 1.0 because she would die on Rez 9 chances out of 10. Players who picked her were yelled at to switch or be reported for throwing the game, and many times they WERE reported. You might, just might, want to get your facts straight before putting out a statement so false.

[sprite-12678]

That is true… and then it’ll be Brigitte after (people already want her nerfed, ofc.)

Then I guess all supports will suck except maybe Zen? Who knows. Apparently keeping people alive and having some utility on the side is terrible.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Zenyatta remains untouched, as his healing is one of worst in game: 30 hp/s on single target, which isn’t enough even against Moira’s secondary attack (50 hp/s).

[Promephius-2624]

They spent something close to half a year working on her and you expect them to keep working on her despite the fact that she is balanced and just not work on any of the other problems that other heroes/the game has.

Added to that you have a bunch of mixed opinions that you clump together while ignoring the issue of game balance.

[sprite-12678]

Yeah, I think it’d be silly to nerf him. Aside from the volley thing which I don’t know whether or not it was needed, Zen is arguably one of the most balanced heroes in this game.

[Promephius-2624]

Before Rework Mercy was considered a TROLL pick

Yes there was a time when this was a thing but before the rework there was also a time where she was a must pick so they had to rework her because the original version was impossible to balance correctly.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Mercy became most picked healer, due to Ana’s nerf, which made Ana unviable. Before that, Mercy was picked in lower tiers, and Ana was picked at higher tiers.

There are many reasons why they reworked her, and if look at official goals of rework, all of those have failed: she is disengaged more than before, hide & rez moved from SR exploit to mandatory tactic.

[Roseblite-1958]

OH?!?!?!

1. REMOVE the stupid SR exploit, which they did one week before the rework.
2. Do not allow Rez from Spawn, even though Hanzo, Junkrat, etc. can preform their Ults from spawn. DONE, one week before release of Rework.

(both of those were not given enough time to see if it helped)

3. Cast time of 1 second, like Lucio.
4. Modified LOS so as to not be cast through walls BUT things like Payload and signs would not prevent Rez.

That is all it basically needed. Two were done, but without enough time to see if it would stop the “Hide and Rez”. The first one DID counter it, get rid of the incentive an people stopped hiding for the most part. NOW Mercy hides all the time, thanks to the Rework and 8 Nerfs. Mercy is the most Nerfed hero in the game, and they are STILL asking for more Nerfs even with this much reduced in power version of Mercy.

[Racillian-1752]

You also need to remember it’s EITHER

Damage Boost

Healing

Pistol

If you could do all 3 at once THAT would be engaging. But you can’t because that would be busted beyond belief.

It would be engaging, but it would be broken too.

Mercy needs Valkyrie as utility and Resurrect as an ultimate. It’s not healthy for Resurrect to be on a cooldown. There is 0 room for a Mercy player to grow because every 30 seconds you will get a Resurrect no matter what.

Screw it. With how much people say “Oh Rez is so strong…” yeah it is “…, but don’t make it an Ultimate again”. Flip the abilities around as they are currently since that’s how they feel to use, but It doesn’t feel like I’m getting any better.

Thou if they flipped them, make Valk last all game ---- JK, cut the ability duration down to 5 seconds that would make its timely use important because you won’t have time to do everything in it.

No matter how well you do you will never be able to influence that timer. Meaning the skill ceiling is low. You may gain Valkyrie a lot more but it doesn’t do anything to stop an ultimate. Damage boost is the only effective thing to use Valkyrie for and survival that’s about it. Use Valkyrie to stay safe and boost team damage to get a kill. Make sure tanks are not dropping below half and you can Resurrect whoever dies after the teamfight. That’s a standard Mercy play by play every fight I’ve been in.

Yep thats how you do it these days. Or Rez that one person who gets picked off on the side of the fight who has a teamwipe ultimate ready, and then get POTG for doing a Rez, but Valk hahahaha your POTGs with that are pathetic.

I get POTGs that are funny for how lame they are… Like flying around a corner to hide from a Tac Visor while getting Offensive assists.

If I didn’t love this character, I would F************** Hate Mercy, but I guess that’s the perspective of those who don’t love the character.

And then there are so many that afraid to say anything about Mercy publicly because they don’t want to be mocked. And they just want to be left alone for playing Mercy, and now they are because she isn’t “offensive” to others much anymore.

She needs a higher skill ceiling. She needs to have a bigger and more impactful ultimate. Finally Valkyrie moving to her E where we can use it more frequently without ruining the flow of our kit.

More like she needs an Ultimate that you can screw-up with, but if you work on its use it could be an amazing play. Unlike current where its hard to screw-up Valkyrie, and its hard to screw-up Rez too. Oh and if you die Rezzing then you’ll have it back by the time you are back from spawn.

[Promephius-2624]

and they are STILL asking for more Nerfs even with this much reduced in power version of Mercy.

Who exactly is asking for more nerfs?
The clear majority are saying that she’s fine and balanced right now and the stats back that up.

[Roseblite-1958]

I guess you don’t read any other forums, because there are several of them to Nerf Mercy more. Mainly her HEALING is too strong lets Nerf it, from DPS who don’t want someone they are attacking to be healed so much so they can just kill them off and be done with it.