[Feedback Thread Continued] Mercy Updates - Jan 30, 2018

If this is true; Good. I can’t imagine when it would have been useful anyway.

Edit: I’m talking about the ‘eternal wall ride’, not the jump timing.

They fixed his ability to jump off of things with appropriate timing.

They did NOT revert ‘eternal wall ride’.

The person I replied to was talking about Mass Rez Mercy. Read the posts before you go on your witch hunt

And it’s a good sized nerf to everyone who was good at Lucio. In a game where mobility is king, slowing someone down is hated. Lucio should have had these abilities since the start of the game; adding them now and calling it a buff because they couldn’t bother two years ago is just lazy PR.

The only “buff” was the crutch that lets people wallride on the same wall after leaving, which was never an issue unless you were riding across a wall with a doorway, and that certainly isn’t worth slowing down.

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Mercy requires more skill to play now than 1.0. Ask any pro and they will say so, and blizz knows this. Lucio changes were obviously a downgrade in skill and everyone agreed on that from low ranks to top ranks. Don’t compare the two.

She only owned the meta during the rework, before that the meta was literally Lucio+Zen 100% of the time in pro play.

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So they just put training wheels on the bike then. It’s easier to ride, but to anyone that already knows how to ride it just gets in the way.

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Calling you a monster sarcastically saying that’s what you’d be if you lived in that world. Don’t be so literal my man.

Highlight intro’s, name me one other then Mercy’s battle angel that is out of character
If that’s the only one then I might have a point.

Mercy is a political pacifist but that in no way means it’s not logical for her to pull out her gun if need be while she’s on. Freaking battleield, it’s just like medics in real war, they still carry guns for a reason.

Anyway as for the omnics let’s go through a list shall we

We have seen
A robot equivilant of Ghandi preaching for rights and peace. We’ve seen mass hysteria form human and omnic alike when said person was killed.
We’ve seen a robot with literal PTSD (Bastion) even a WHOLE FREAKING CINEMATIC about that
We’ve got an entire organization of omnics that went off to seek enlightenment.
And the Overwatch universe has made us try to feel sad for OMnics before, in the Hero Cinematic where those thugs were beating that omnic.
Also an omnic hiding in that short sequence before uprising with the humans.

Clearly we are meant to see omnics as possible humans and the fact tracer refers to null sector as an omnic extremist group in a way that reflects them as sentient.

Yeah regardless of what you think, the Overwatch universe is trying to tell us that in that world omnics are not all that different from humans, and here’s the thing, there are some people who think like you (Zarya who’s prejudiced cus omnics attacked her home, same as Junkrat.
But unless you can tell me Mercy thinks like them… which I have a hard time seeing, you cna’t deny she was willing to shoot living things.

As for surviving the ultimate storm
200 HPS switching targets combined with ever so minor amounts and you COULD LET YOUR TEAM SURVIVE MOST HTINGS A (ANYTHING A MOIRA COULD SAVE FROM) BUT IT’D REQUIRE SOME SKILL.

Agreed
Make Valk he Quick Fix (tf2) and then we tackle the beast of rez.

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I don’t think so, unless something is flagged in here.

And then people are mad, because you didn’t res them. And who cared you were CC during it, shot to dead or simply it was on cooldown.

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No. They put handlebars on the bike. They aren’t technically required to make the bike go forward, but they make it a lot harder to fall off and make maneuvering a lot easier. The people who did it the old way aren’t wrong, but now they don’t have to try as hard to do something as basic as turning, and now they have access to a lot more tricks while still being able to do everything they could before.

Maybe, except there has been an extreme drought for lore and not much is known.

Tell me how Omnics are made and then we’ll talk lore. As of yet, I’ll just assume they’re programs.

Bastion isn’t too special storywise (reminds me of a lot of other similar stories) and Zenyatta just feels like MacGuffin for Genji (is there anything about his lore not linked to helping Genji?). Orisa I actually absolutely love, she’s cute. I wouldn’t mind more omnics like her. Or the Null Sector Troopers, they’re cute too.

Or I can AoE heal as Zenyatta for much more than that with much greater results. Again, this isn’t at all a special ult. It’s just the same thing Zenyatta and Moira do. Much faster healing, but the only difference the value is lessened and only applied to one target.

And how exactly is that? Especially when:

  • Your effects could be easily negated if you did res in the wrong moment.
  • You could die just after performing it (which was one of the reasons for making 1.1 - immortality while casting).
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What about returning the Ult to Mass Resurrect, and replacing the invulnerability frames with a damage reduction akin to Roadhog’s or Bastion’s with the numbers adjusted to fit?

Meanwhile Valkyrie, becomes either splitting the staff beams for a short time, or some sort of movement that doesn’t require a team-mate like GA does.

Alternatively, there could be a change to how Resurrect behaves during Valkyrie, making it a sort of AoE, that would Resurrect those near the main target, within a small radius. To compensate for the power boost to Resurrect, perhaps the chained beams could be removed, or just combined into a single, somewhat stronger than normal beam.

I’m fairly sure both of these ideas have been posted in some way earlier in this Megathread, but I figure bringing them up again is worthwhile. Also, for other much more complete ideas, look for posts by Titanium, Macster, and Silawatsi.

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You mean such as this idea?

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Yes, very much like this one. Thank you!

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to my knowledge, the BAD hiding, is the one that purposefully neglect healing or any other way to support teammates all the time in order to maximize the effect of resurrection’s broken SR system.

oh and…

after these two (or three?) months, i’ve seen that valk is the ult you can ignore and keep shooting as long as your own support is not down.
that’s sad, other Balanced heroes have this ult that you’d be stupid to ignore it, but not Mercy apparently.

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Listen, Mercy was a victim of certain bad balance choices around her. Now hear me out. Ana was released onto the pc on 7/19/16 Overwatch Forums

then on 8/2/16 Anas rate of fire and magizine size was increased because they deemed her as a little weak. Overwatch Forums

On 9/2/16 Lucios’ amp it up on the ps4 was decreased by 30% due to him being a “must pick” Overwatch Forums

then on 10/11/16 everything started going downhill for Ana. Anas’ ultimate cost was increased by 20% and her grenade radius was increased by 3 to 4 meters Overwatch Forums.

Then on 11/14/16 Anas’ ult no longer gave speed boost to whoever she applied it to and Lucios’ Amp it up was decreased by 10 % while Blizzard claimed it made him a mandetory pick Overwatch Forums .

As the new year rolled around so did more nerfs for Ana decreasing her Biotic grenade healing boost by 50% as they claimed it had “too much healing” Overwatch Forums

In February which im sure it miffed a lot of people off is when, wait for it, Mercys’ invulnerability as she rez’d was implemented due to the fact she died a lot to use it. Overwatch Forums

On March 20, 2017 Ana again was nerfed(feels bad man), her damage being decreased from 80 dps to 60 dps to make her “less threatening”

After Ana was nerfed it looked like it was Lucios’ turn to face the music because due to him still being a must pick on April 7 ,2017 his area of healing was reduced from 30m to 10m , his hps was increased by 30% and self heals reduced by 25% because of his must pick status of raw healing it forced him to stay close to his team Overwatch Forums

That leaving Mercy/zen as in the support roster as the only main healers until mercys’ rework on sept 19, 2017( Moira wasn’t introduced until Nov 16, 2017).
(If I missed anything please let me know.)
(EDIT: I’m saving this post since we’re getting close to 20’000 posts , just in case they decide to make a new one)

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Dudes… why are we even answering and posting opinions and ideas in this thread if they are just gonna ignore it? I mean, what if we actually posted them all into the normal forum and wait the Moderators to put them here, at least the devs and the mods will have to notice us and we would have an actual feedback… It just feels like there’s really no one reading this… if they would i wouldn’t even consider it as an option…

Guess because we like to discuss about Mercy.

yeah, and my idea does not contradict this feeling, i’ve actually proposed a way to improve visibility