Still, she counters most of it.
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Expect further nerfs then: she had 4 seconds matrix, that could counter most of tactical visor and whole hog (6 seconds).
I think she is fine she is receiving a damage nerf to rockets. Anyways back to Mercy related topics.
#NotMyMercy needs to start trending
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edit: i misunderstood sorry
![:thinking:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=5" ":thinking:")
You can charge mercy, you can boop mercy, you can hack / stun / kill mercy. You sound biased.
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No you couldn’t lmao when she activated ult it was instant
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The way i experienced the old mercy in masters was …
Rein solo ult mercy - dead
Pharah solo ult mercy - dead
Cree solo ult mercy - dead
Cree aoe ult rezzed teammates - lost match
Dva drops her ult next to rezzed teammates and starts emoting - lost match and funny potg
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Mmmm, no see DPS can’t think that far ahead.
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https://youtu.be/FLUgvb0kMCg
Sorry what?
How many times did i get solo ulted when I had my rezz ready? How many times did i get hooked when I had my rezz ready? How many times did i get flanked when i had my rezz ready? How many times did my team die right after the rezz? 0 counterplay my @ss
Edit: granted i never played hide n rezz mercy. But an LOS check would make her counterable + 1 sec cast time (no invulnerability)
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Dude you still had the damn ult after you died lmao. You could still use it. But I’m the one sounding biased. Counterplay as in: when Lúcio is about to drop the beat McCree flashed him, hog hooked him,Sombra hacks him. The ult is lost and can’t be used again. That’s counterplay. Not killing someone before they even start to activate an ability
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Ah, cool. That’s great to hear. I had no idea if anyone on this forum had seen that video and you got me wondering.
By all means i agree that mass rezz needed nerfing / tweaking but saying it had no counterplay is a false statement.
I even had games against sombras spamming hack on me forcing me to switch because i couldnt use it for 3 teamfights in a row.
Anyways. At least having rezz as an ult and being outplayed or countered didnt feel bad for me. Having a rezz on an E that makes me have to basically stand still and hide whilst hoping to rng jesus the enemy doesnt slap me like a hot burrito and another teammate doesnt die from lack of heals is what makes me quit playing her.
Now what makes me quit playing the game all together is the devs failing to do their job in listening to feedback (such as us saying on ptr that the reworked mercy was too strong yet they released her unchanged)
Rezz is too powerful to be a basic ability.
Making a mobility champ stand still to cast an almost 2 sec spell as her team is in a numbers disadvantage is toxic and bad game design.
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inb4 “But that’s just you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”
Actually before the mercy rework, people still kept their ults. Losing them upon pressing the button only got introduced later if im not mistaken, so hooking a lucio mid beatdrop did not lose him the ult.
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That too, but mostly she lacks an ultimate. Kinda. In the offence matter it is helpful, but in case of defense (healing) it’s not.
Actually… that is counter play, targeting one player because they have an ultimate ability that could change the outcome of the game. Focus that player to nullify the issue. Isn’t that the entire purpose of flanking, to take out key characters and counter the enemy teams composition.
Counter play can be as simple as making it impossible for that player to use the ability by targeting them or by having an answer for when that ability is used.
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I agree with your statement.
But i also see the point people made about her ult being: successful or used for next fight.
Like if you die you keep your ult.
If you dont die and pressed Q the ult went off no matter what. I can see why this is tricky, still fixable with a 1 sec cast like lucio though.
Trans on the other hand is instant and cant be stopped either. Maybe make it so ana nades can prevent a dead body from being rezzed during the duration (like when ppl cant be healed in trans if naded)
Would put mercy and ana on par and put more decision making into “can i hold onto my ult until the debuff is gone?”
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I’ve thought of ideas that would make Resurrect work in a preemptive manner like it does in other games in which Revives are balanced, but feel good to use.
Yes, such good game… “Hey, guys, tell when everybody has ult ready! Now? OK, PRESS TO WIIIIIIIN!!! Hey, do the game still continues? Meh, let’s repeat in the next point. Nobody can counter us now.”
Yes, it’s a highly skillful strategy, it requires a lot of thinking and of course it’s extremely difficult to use (sarcasm over 9000). Now seriously, if hide and rez was a bad strategy, piling ults that way should be heavily punished with an instant defeat, that’s why mass rez was good for the game. It punished stupid players and stupid plays, but rewarded smart players and smart plays.
First of all, insulting people directly goes against the forum rules, you should watch your tongue before talking. Secondly, you don’t need to be even bronze to know that Transcendence can save your team from even 3 ults like Zarya+Reaper+Pharah. In fact, someone in this forum did that. If you don’t know how supportive ults work, then you should git gud a lot in the whole game. Also, Lucio can confidently save his team from things like Zarya+Pulse Bomb
Genji indeed can counter almost every single incoming damage in the game if he is placed properly (and reflect’s hitbox is ridiculously huge). Remember when comps with more than 1 Bastion where possible and a single Genji could simply press E and destroy the entire team? Well, he still can reflect even things like Rip Tire, concusion mine, Pulse Bomb, High Noon, every single Hanzo’s, Torbjorn’s and Bastion’s shoot or ability,…
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7lKTpddHWM&t=477s (remove the space)
7:57-8:13. This is how you countered mass rez, and don’t dare to tell me that it was too hard, I won’t believe that the Junkrat in the video was exactly the best world Junkrat. Easy peasy. It’s called playing smart and saving ultimates. Ult economy. Not just throwing all your stuff like a brainless maniac. Also, hacking Mercy was a great way to prevent her rez, so if she was doing her job, Mercy was doomed.
Making that would have some great issues. Imagine some kind of Resurrect buff, like Kharazim’s in Heroes of the Storm. If you die, you rez. Sounds good. However, it would turn the game into all dpss playing kamikaze while the buff is on them. Also, the enemy team would have two options. Completely ignore the enemy until the buff is gone and then slay him, or deal with him twice trying to stop his suicidal rampage. That would create more frustration I think.
That said, I’m okay with rez affecting alive teammates too somehow. That would create space to even more decision making, and mass rez really had one of the highest (if not the highest) levels of decision making in the entire game. That’s why she was hard to master before, and why there were so many guides on internet about how to use her rez.
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Please continue because why do they get to keep their fun? They do their Ultimates and get to be either safe while doing them or such a threat that you are best left to hiding from them.
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