The orb is on a 10 sec cooldown and now has a 1m radius to be able to latch on something and DISAPEAR when on a contact with a shield.
WHY THE HELL A 10 SECOND COOLDOWN ABILITY WITH SUCH A SMALL RADIUS CAN DISAPEAR ON A CONTACT WITH A SHIELD?
Make it at least stick to the shield and do it’s job ?
Symmetra can spam 140DMG orb with a 2m splash effect every second. EVERY SECOND. ANd it deals the 140DMG on the shield at least.
It’s just ridiculous.
Or at least increase the radius or keep the infinite bounce… You can’t say it’s skilled while the orb is at best some lucky stuff… And i doesn’t count how many times it dealt 1dmg to the target without latching on it…
And don’t say it’s massive on a grav, IT ISN’T : In a grav : shields are up, zarya will bubble herself, and dva will matrix : the orb will just disapear. Unless the ennemy team has no brig and runs Hog&Ball torture and zarya is lucky enough to get her 6 man, you can possibly expect, IF YOUR OR IS AVAILABLE, to get a 720 dmg orb, which means 0.1% ultra-situational occasion.
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Or, that’s a wild idea and not sure if morally okay, use the orb to… you know… heal
Yes it is a change in playstyle but that’s probably wanted
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I mean she is a dps?
Do you expect moira to throw a dmg orb every second?
This comparison is outrageous, do i need to complain that ana cant one shot headshot like widow as well?
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you prolly nerver played moira, so…
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yeah everyone who disagrees never played Moira, the classic
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Maybe (and I am not saying you are right) you HAD TO use her damage orb.
Now that changed. As I said. A change in her PLAYSTYLE.
Of course it’s gonna feel horrible if you try to play her the same way although she got a huge change. Thought that was self-explanatory though.
Besides, often people who play a hero very often become biased and think in the same mental model over and over again. So someone who does not play that hero as much MIGHT have a clearer view.
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Man ii cannot even use it to even duel some one because it’s just so easily avoidable and on a 10 sec coolodwn… Symmetra get better orbs than tha, it’s not even 1% to the level of symmetra spam orb… AND MOIRA IS A DPS HEALER? DPS is her only thing beside healing, so unless the target is static and not looking at me, it will latch…
You talk about the playstyle but the only one viable i see it’s DPS moira going right in your backlane, latch it on the ana, and killing it instantly because she cannot escape it anymore.
Yeah that’s the right playstyle for some one talking about playing it differently…
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It’s to discourage you from spamming it. I actually noticed I am using the healing orb more often. And when I do damage orb I can hit 3 people with it who group up doing more damage then before. Her healing orb still functions like before so it’s just a playstyle change to the damage orb. The only thing I don’t like about the orb is the damage cap on it being 120. It shouldn’t have a damage cap so damage modifiers can increase its damage if it will go live. The dot with aoe damage feels good and the removal of piercing shields makes it more punishing, not to mention the one bounce change makes it really more used as a direct missile, which heavily discourages and elimates bounce shots like the hero intro video.
Ana players: “Ah, welcome.”
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She got one of the best tools to 1v1 flankers as a support, what is the problem here? New orb is like sleep, you have to aim it, but if it attaches it pretty much guarantees a squishy to die, just like sleep. Not to mention how much dmg it dishes out in the right situation (in a grav for example). It became more situational and harder to use, but it rewards the player much more if used correctly.
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Spamming it… on a 10 sec coolodown… what if zen’s discord orb was on a 5 second cooldown and was pin point precise…
comparing the orb with a sleep… Imagine mccree spamming flashbangs avery sec while you have sleep dart every 10 sec and people keep telling you : yes but it’s ok, mccree is dps, you are healer.
The best tool against flankers ? Tracer can avoid now any orb damage even moire easily and genji will deflect it on purpose (it deals 1 dmg on genji then turns against you), even mccree has to just side step and the orb has already disapeared… best tool against flanker?
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Sleep dart is a 1m (ish) radius ability with a wind-up that also gets blocked by shields
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That would be good considering you can’t fire it onto nothing. Moira is balanced to be a close range healer though. Her damage means more accuracy to duel… and it encourages moira’s to use orb for healing most cases especially if they can’t land the damage orb.
Her orb is now a tool to protect herself from flankers (wich is a great addition to her kit). Before, I only used it to have a free ult charge or a random kill from accross the map, and when I was attacked by flankers I usually healed myself and tried to run away. Now that she has that new damage potential, she doesn’t have to be played in only one way (heal bot). A more diverse playstyle will always bring more depth to a hero.
Yes I am a Moira player since she is my most played support in diamond.
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I always think it’s funny how people complain about dps Moira, it’s literally 50% of her kit 
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Because yuou all DPS and tank who barrely ever played moira outside exp and the first day she came out, why don’t we make that rework :
now moira player cannot control moira, only dps and tanks will decide what moira does during a fight because they all know better than the actual moira main what she should do.
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The change I hate the most is the orb disappearing on barriers. Like, they’ve been trying to nerf double barrier meta for months now, and they get rid of one of the abilities that ignore barriers? No! They need to add MORE abilities that ignore barriers
She is a healer, not a dps. She was able to pump out too much pressure before.
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it’s like the trash fade utility, we need the cleanse, not the teamate invulnerability.
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I was a GM Moira and all damage orb is used for is to get ult charge, this gets you more ult charge if you’re good
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