Since Blizz is never going to rework lamp, add CD to his mobility. Make him somewhat vulnerable, it’s insane how easy value this hero gets.
I’d rather they nerf this hero than Mccree
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Remember when people said, “who even asked for this nerf?” Allow me to introduce everyone to Djukation. #nerfexoboots.
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As a DF/Reaper/Tracer player, attacking Bap is worthless, other than lamp he just jumps away… lands and jumps again… and again. Easy vertical mobility/positioning.
So yea, nerf the boots.
He uses no resources, while you use your CDs a lot.
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Huh. These are actually good tips. I think I’m a better Baptiste now. Thank you very much.
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What else do you hate? Asking for a friend?
Actually nvm. I never return to the same thread twice so I won’t see anyway. But genuinely thanks for the tips.
Not enough guides around here.
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What does this even mean?
Honestly his boots are the most balanced part of his kit imo.
Clear drawbacks (having to crouch, cast time)
Decent strengths but not OP (can jump reasonably high, reposition), which isn’t too bad.
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Exo boots are not mobility. They are verticality. It’s surprisingly easy to shoot a jumping Baptiste because high jump has an extremely predictable arc which doesn’t move too much.
Exo boots need exactly zero changes.
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He has damage, aoe healing, immortality, dps/heal ult boost, vertical mobility that’s spammable.
The cast time is irrelevant since you can hold it as long as you want (ofc you won’t do it against snipers or w/e, but for flankers only)… You don’t waste CDs, and flankers waste valuable CDs.
You can’t dive Bap with DF, you can’t contest jump with Tracer. Even if somehow Bap fails to dodge/position, he can use resources to survive. They’re not reworking lamp or changing his damage, so exo boots can take a hit on CD.
his boots don’t need any changes tho. no one complains about them
The problem is not the jump (unless you’re DF), the problem is the position he can get so easily. Imagine Widow having this…
Yeah and I don’t think his exo boots are the problem out of all those things. It just makes no sense, exo boots are easily the most balanced part of his kit, why nerf it?
True, but then you have the drawback of crouching which makes you
- Easier to hit
- Slower
- When you’re in the air it’s easy to hit you because of the predictable movement
These are pretty big drawbacks considering how most mobility tools don’t even have drawbacks. I.e genji dash.
I have two things to say in response to that:
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Widowmaker has a grapple for repositioning purposes. It is on a long cooldown because she has insane (almost overpowered) burst potential.
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Baptiste is balanced completely differently from Widowmaker and his gun requires more precision and is less lethal as a result. If Baptiste had a one-shot kill gun, then maybe exo boots might be troublesome.
Flexible positioning is a must in this game and is essential for most heroes because mobility is extremely powerful. Anyone who can’t reposition quickly gets destroyed.
Play better instead of complaining when someone jumps out of your line of sight.
Like I said already, you won’t be doing this against non-flankers. Especially mid/long range DPS.
They can’t take any other thing in his kit and they refuse to rework lamp. So hit the boots, unnecessary free mobility for no reason.
I’m not convinced, I have a feeling they might rework it.
They already said that some of the april fools changes were intended for actual testing (i.e zarya bubbles) and reworked IF was one of them.
in regards to the rest of your post, I believe it’s just an “agree to disagree” at that point.
Lamp is a necessary evil because the game has evolved to the point where you literally need to buy enough time to make a play.
For that reason, lamp will never be fundamentally reworked, especially when it would strip Baptiste of an essential element of his identity.
He’s a support with aoe immortality. If he’s one-shotting as well then I would complain to that as well. He needs a weakness.
Baptiste has plenty of weaknesses.
Would you like me to list them for you?
Please do, and tell me how balanced he is.
Asking me to tell you how balanced he is seems like bait, but I think he’s well balanced. Give me a couple of minutes and I will edit this post with his multitude of weaknesses.
Edit: here’s a post of mine from December 2019, when he got his first “rapid fire” buff with no other major changes to his kit (aside from window duration and reduction in healing nade splash size) when compared to launch baptiste
There’s also other things such as Orisa being able to pull people out of lamp radius, echo being available to force Baptiste to look up instead of at his team (making it harder for him to heal), hamster to knock people around, reduced team healing from fist pump, drastically reduced healing output for Baptiste, and other things that I haven’t thought of just yet.
Yeah, for sure. They’re probably working out issues with the Exp IF behind the scenes, which hopefully includes giving it better feedback. I was fine with Exp IF, but I still cannot tell you whether I actually did that much good with it, or if it was all in my head.