Everyone said big streamers would come back for 2-2-2?

You claimed long queue times have been verified, this is false. That you haven’t bothered to check is not my problem and doesn’t stop you from being wrong.

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Thats from the beta pal. Its old info (16days ago, data from 20 days ago).
Like I said, I literally played this week with 10-12 minute queues. Do you want me to take screenshots too ?

Also, do you think that DPS having to wait 10x times the Tank/Support queues is “fine” ? Because if thats the case, I guess we can agree to disagree.

I think some people speculated some might come back, it definitely was not everyone by a long shot, and the truth is we are what a scan two weeks into it? Give it time as they work the kinks out instead of trying to use this point as a bludgeon against 2-2-2. The “oh noez 2-2-2 phailed we told ya so” lines are getting a bit out of hand right now considering that the majority like it and the queue times are for the most part no different below Diamond.

Frankly, if they left, it just really doesn’t matter if they come back or not, they are contributing nothing at this point either way.

222 fixes everything everyone and their mom said.

hehehe

You calaimed long queue times have been verifed.

This is false.

The beta is no different to what we have now, unless you have proof that it isn’t. I don’t care about your personal anecdotes they aren’t relevant.

Another fallacy. You have no evidence that the average queue times is 10 times as long.

^ The kind of childish mentality we are dealing with on the topic… but thanks for your insightful contribution.

Playing more tank (probably lower/higher) wont magically give you a instant que…
That’s not exactly how it works imho

It will help. And quite honestly, I kind of have a feeling that no one has said, I would not be surprised if the proportion of high level players is not as even on the 20% tank/30% support/50% DPS overall average, I suspect its weighted even higher on DPS due to open 6-stacks in the past and thus the queue times are compounded.

The simple reality is, higher tiers are going to have to wait, queue for more roles, or Blizz will have to expand the SR range. Given how many at those tiers Smurf and “throw down” I don’t have a lot of sympathy.

Dude there are multiple streamers having 20mins or even 1h queues, it is LITERALLY there, on twitter and their streams. Are you going to pretend that only non masters and GM count? Becauase that would be establishing fake parameters … you know, LYING.

You made that statement up.
My anecdotal evidence happens to repeat A LOT , at least in EU and plat/gold ranks but of course you are going to dismiss it.

Again, tanks have less than 1 min queues, DPS have around 10mins, simple math. You dismissing anything that doesnt suit your point is pure dishonesty.

We are done here pal.

I haven’t lied once no matter what you are implying.

I have demonstrated how your claims are false.

We are done only because you have zero evidence to support your claims other than a handful of anecdotes.

I have provided evidence for my claims, you have not. Maybe stop being a hypocrite?

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Its not implied pal, ive seen those streams, we are in a “big streamers” thread remember?

Are you claiming that Kephrii and Kragie and Iddqd and many others lie?
Are you going to pretend that masters and GM are not OW players now?

Absolutely not. You provided data from 16-20days ago.
I literally waited 30 sec when queueing tank and 10-12 mins on DPS this week. You just simply dismissed it as “anecdotal evidence” you didnt debunk squat mate. Theres a difference.

Its not being a hypocrite, its you trying to gaslight people and make believe that us plats dont have like 10-12 mins DPS queues, which is LITERALLY happening right now. But live your dream.

Like I said, this ends now. Keep ranting alone.

Seeing as I never claimed that the queue times for those streamers was equivelant to the majority you just lied again.

I see no point in trying to debate with someone who has repeatedly lied to try and prove a point, refuses to accept the only evidence available and resorts to insults when they get called out.

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Well for starters lots of streamers are DPS mains. I’m sure many quit during goats meta. And from what I’ve seen on the forums high ranked DPS queue times take forever. So I imagine if they did come back to check out 2-2-2 they probably left because of the queue times.

Playing classic WoW.

I waited 4h in wow bfa as dps for lfr…

Its not great for top lvl dps players, but i don’t know a easy solution.

Truth hurts, I know.