Quick introduction to the replay I’m posting here below. I play as Echo.
Some additional info: I was mid diamond to low masters, quite stable during season 6-9.
I recently started a fresh account and got placed in mid plat. Nothing too unexpected. I can still climb my way back up. At least I thought so…
I’m now gold 2, yes you are reading correctly. The randomness I have to deal with is overwhelming, it’s nearly impossible to achieve reliable results and rise. I feel like I’m swimming against waves in a storming ocean with rain disturbing my view. I’m not able to make any noticeable distance out of this miserable matchmaking hurricane.
It’s difficult to extract true evidence for the chaotic state of the current ranking system. But I might have found some clarity in the sheer chaos around me.
A fortune coincidence happened.
Coincidence: A new game started and before the first round began I was thoroughly convinced I would win this game even if I would have to carry all by myself, no matter how desperate it would appear to win this game. I would completely exhaust myself if necessary. That was my plan for the game.
Coincidence: The teams could not have been matched more unfair and not in my favor than in this game. The perfect conditions to drive myself to the limits with my set plan.
Watch the replay and see yourself how the game went.
If player skill > average skill of players matched with but the team is doing meme things or has poor picks, then winrate and rank decrease
If player skill is irrelevant cause teammate are toxic, racist or bigots, then winrate and rank decrease
If echo main gets matched with a bap/lucio, then winrate and rank decrease
There are a lot of scenarios.
Its true elo hell is hard to exist, for some its a matter of how many games you have played to increase your odds of ranking up
Quite often, some are unfortunate on top of this.
I played about 357 games in compy last season, at least 15 of them were “thrown” by enemy team solely due to racism, cause my voice saying hi was enough for them
About 10 ish thrown by teamamtes on purpose cause friend had an LGBTQ pfp
Do these matter if you play a lot lot more games? unlikely
Do these affect something somewhere? they do, motivation included
OP, If you are in elo hell, according to you the you need to keep playing enough games to increase the odds.
And they happen to everyone equally. Everyone has to deal with players not playing at their peak, everyone has to deal with people counterpicking themselves, everyone has to deal with toxic swamps. Therefore, they have no bearing on your rank because they aren’t unique to any one person. Your rank is a reflection of your average performance across a period of time.
Posting one replay code isn’t proof of anything. Anything can happen in any single match lobby.
It just matters how you do in a longer set of games. Eventually, your teammates, your enemies, and all the other factors fade away. It just takes a lot of games for the variances to have minimal effect.
I play GM and Masters. Lost my password and made a new account. I normally get placed in Gold or Plat. It usually takes me a couple of weeks to climb back to Masters. The placement system does NOT work. I have been able to climb from Gold to Masters on over 30 accounts in the past 5 years.
How many hours on this account in ranked? We need to stop making alt accounts then whining about not climbing. Come back when you hit 50+ ranked hours. Climbing used to be very quick in earlier seasons.
I just watched the replay. If you play really well like you did, you’ll get braindead tanks. When there is a pocketed widow, the tank should have immediately swapped to dive, in this case, DVA. If you’re good Winston or Ball would work too. It’s really difficult to solo a pocketed widow as a DPS, but really easy with a dive tank. The other issue was the support. Nothing drives me more insane than a Mercy that heals the tank. Mercy should be in the back healing, boosting the dps while keeping her other support alive. Mercy’s that heal the tank wonder why they die often. Tank healing Mercy’s are a sickness that infects anything below Diamond. Mercy should have pocketed you, and let the Mauga die, so it forces the tank to swap. Lifeweaver would have been a good second choice if they didn’t want to Mercy. Lifeweaver is great at keeping Echo and Pharah up at the same time. I play GM support and swap to a support that is best for my team comp.
At start your last out of spawn and engage after 3 people die then die late… Like, right now you playing like a maybe a silver at best. Mechanics are fine but little to no gamesense.
Get a pointless pick because you get it when it can be rezzed and your team can’t follow up then you die making the rest of the fight a easy 4v5 for them.
You say you play echo and you don’t open with sticky’s to beam on the mercy standing still… I’m sorry, that’s something I’d expect from a plat player… you have terrible optimization here. You do ult after you get the one pick… fine. Could of played that without needing ult tbh by going back to team after killing mercy.
On point 2 you move forward without your team which is good if your taking good positioning … standing in the open on low ground is NOT this. You should of been poking and denying high ground… This play is bad. (funny it could of worked if you had ult)
You get lucky and get 3 kills better players would of killed you but don’t worry you waste your ult (you already won the fight) to give free value to the team.
Another meh play and using ult to make it semi viable… like you do understand if you do this stuff when your team is around it’s 2x-3x more effective? Again, I’d expect most plats to make plays with there team… you aren’t… you are lucky to be gold.
Defense …
1st fight it is what it is.
you then get farmed by moria because you don’t try to regroup … you team is never fully grouped because of you…
Afk throwing
Terrible ult…
You have a tilt problem.
Seen bronze players do better than you at defense fyi.
Yea, you aren’t even close to being a masters player or even a plat player… don’t know how to time things or really understand anything about basic ult econ… like it’s funny you wasted 3 ults on attack to keep your self in a won fight but on defense you won’t use your ult once even though right now the perfect use of it would be to keep you in the fight.
If I had to describe your playstyle you play in a way they rely’s on people missing shots and pre protectile nerf this might of worked but now… you NEED gamesense and teamwork … and you don’t have it. Certified gold!
I disagree here. There was a tank issue and a secondary support issue. Tank needed to swap to dive, because you can never let a pocketed widow free-range shots. You also can’t let a Bastion and Widow hold high ground. The support was more worried about the tank and healing the Echo very little, which is a massive common mistake in lower elos. I see support healing Hogs over 200hp heroes with little survivability. As a support, your #1 person to heal is your other support.
How can the healers heal echo when they aren’t playing with them?
On the defense mercy trys and the echo doesn’t group up with them agian for the rest of the game.
But yea, honestly if you want to defend a player that goes afk… you do you. but that alone makes them a bad player.
I think it would be good if you could support your way up on supports.
You would hope that was a more viable play style than DPSing on supports, because supporting is so weak in lower ranks.
I get why it is like that, but wouldn’t it be nice if each role actually had playing as that role as the way up in ranks? (yes it is hard to balance like that).
Echo was the only one trying to clear high ground, which is the correct play. The tank not swapping to dive forces the Echo into that role, requiring the Echo to flank solo to clear high ground. The Mercy should have stayed with Echo because Echo was making the right plays. Yes, I did see some overly aggressive feeding in some spots, but most were the right ones. Overall it was a bad game on the Tank and then the support. I really didn’t see a DPS issue here.
