Elo hell, here is the proof!

I’m not going to parrot myself agian. I explained why it was bad. If you don’t get that’s cool and feel free to disagree with it but if you want to get better at vod review either learn from that or find away to explain why I’m wrong.

Good luck either way.

You can, it’s just much slower. Of course killing people yourself is easier than helping others do it. I give advice for climbing fast, that’s it. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other ways.

Right, it would be good if the “supporting play style” actually was the thing which got you up ranks quickly.

You can go up ranks quickly playing a tanking style for tanks.

You can go up ranks quickly playing a DPS style for DPS.

It is a shame that isn’t extended to support, but… if it was, they would likely blow out in power massively in high ranks.

So I see why it isn’t, but I still feel like it would be good if it was.

If Supporting was stronger than DPSing, nothing would EVER die, especially in high ranks. I can see where you’re coming from but there’s just no way to do this. If you want to rank up quickly, you have to carry. And to carry, you can’t be putting the match in your teammates hands.

If it makes you feel better, high ranked Support is basically DPS and has been for a while, so this isn’t teaching many bad habits.

The entire elo hell thing is based on that. The game doesnt take into account that some roles or heroes dont work as carries. When the game expects you to make up for a 2+ tier in tabk skill cuz you are 2 tiers better on support… i mean theoretically you probably can but prepare a shower afterwards I guess

There isnt an elo hell but you do have to adjust and play different to get out. Playing correctly wont exactly get you out of the metal ranks. You have to play special down there.

I dunno, my supports keep me alive just fine

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Perhaps you just get performance anxiety on your other account? The ranking system is perfect and your teammates are totally your level. Just ask GM players!

Think about it, would you be stuck in gold if you were GM? No? Therefore ELO hell is a myth.

The common denominator in all of your games is you. It’s impossible to only have bad teammates and never have bad opponents. For every unwinnable game you get, you likely get a stomp in your teams favor, but the bad memories stick in your head longer.

There’s a reason good players always get to high ranks no matter what. We carry our way there by winning all winnable games. Literally anyone can do this. You don’t need to be GM to carry in a Gold game.

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Lol peak t100 on doomfist and have been losing in plat. You can pull a 60 elim game and still lose because the matchmaker said so.

Currently grinding through the ranks on hitscan which is even better then my doom, was a hitscan coach, 10k plus fps hours all that jazz. I average from 5-15kd per match on all heroes and will still lose.

Tell me you havent climbed without telling me

Losing one game doesn’t mean your average winrate isn’t ridiculously high.

If you’re doing this consistently there’s no way you’re not climbing. That is irrefutably impossible.

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It is not about that. It is the sheer volume of games it takes. Absolutely disgusting. My common denominator Reinhardt bro took nearly 200 games to get to GM from a bronze account. That is just inherently dumb and I cannot believe people actively defend it. Himself included toward the beginning of the run until living that nightmare started sobering him up. All of a sudden that holier than thou mask slipped and he certainly was not blaming himself (even if he was self critical about his own mistakes). :joy:

You already know my story. It happened to Metro as well. You get stuck at these metal ranks if you play a certain way. You need to change your playstyle to climb and as you are aware… I did. And then I stopped because it is not fun. If having flawless games makes me a gold player, I am gold. If throwing my deaths per ten makes me a diamond player, I am gold. Because I refuse to play that way. Screw that.

I already posted proof of two accounts. 70hrs and the one only made to mid plat before I gave up. The other was around 5hrs to hit the same rank on the same hero. A third account got to around diamond 3 in the same 5hrs.

Game is busted and only shills who havent hit top ranks will say its not. When you can be in a t500 lobby and have dps going 0 elims, supports having more damage then both dps combined, tanks that literally cant make space. Its a huge problem the lower you go

One account got banned for “cheating” fortunately it was unbanned. Every game win or lose is some poor sap sayin to report for cheating/smurfing.

Elo hell is real in Open Queue because of the RNG with teammates playing awful picks but Role Queue there’s definitely no elo hell, you can climb but it takes even longer than it used to with the recent rank reset.

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I initially thought it was a good thing that the game got people to their correct rank quickly, but I also kinda think making it take forever disencourages alt accounts so whatever. I know nothing.

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They each have their pros and cons. It does not matter too much to me, anymore. I was a bit worried at first because of Wide Groups. If I play support as intended, I drop like an anchor. I HAVE to DPS on support to keep in range with Sistah Spice so we can play together. That being said, I got over it. If we have to, we will just play quickplay. It was irrational to freak out about it.

I don’t believe that.
Your positioning is not good enough, and you are not fast enough either.

What I saw was you constantly positioning yourself in front of 3-4 enemies. If you did that in Diamond+ you would be insta-deleted.

The last bit I saw was you copying Soldier and duelling him. In the duel, you lose sight of him and you are slow at turning. There is no way a Master Soldier would do that.

I believe you, when you say you are Gold 2.

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Where?

I want to see that 15 K/D with a negative winrate. I want an actual screenshot of the career profile. Otherwise I’m just gonna call bs.

…it’s not. And considering the fact that I’m a GM and can compete with T500 streamers, I can say I’ve hit the top ranks. So you can just take that back, because I prove it wrong. Jester does as well.

I have never seen this, and I’ve been in GM for…oh, 800 hours now? I’m not saying it CAN’T happen, but it’s objectively not happening consistently.

You’re lying. Just stop, dude.

Literally all you have to do is play aggressively. In metal ranks, a Plat could get stuck in Gold for a while, for example. But a Diamond just has to be more aggressive than normal and they just win most of the time. My mechanics aren’t even good and I can unga bunga in metal ranks, so no one has an excuse to be stuck.

If you don’t want to play aggressively to get to your rank…well, honestly you don’t deserve the complain. Because the option is in fact there, and you’re just not taking it.

I genuinely think Metro was boosted. Because his awareness is just ZERO. I have a saved POTG from S8 where I killed him once as Echo, he gets rezzed, and then I kill him again. That’s not ok. If I can kill you twice in a row that easily with a hero that isn’t Tracer, you don’t deserve higher than Masters. I don’t watch Metro, but I’ve played with him and against him. I’ve never lost against him and I’ve never won with him on my team. And I’ve seen all the videos of him raging, of course.

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Ok bud, not arguing with a blizzard fan boy. Peace