way too strong, he has the highest winrate of a commonly played hero,
has 3 mobility abilities and also has 3 cc abilities, has an aoe oneshot can get upwards of 350 hp and has shotguns with no need for reload.
why is he able to dominate so freely with so few changes?
Edit* i now understand that doomfist is not a monster himself, although extremely oppressive, his winrate comes down to multiple factors that have not so much do with him directly. orisa being off meta atm is one reason, in a plethora of other that it is now Doomfist’s time to shine.
Zenyatta is both currently picked more at high rank, and has a higher win rate
So when can I expect your “let’s nerf zen” threads?
No need to reload?
He literally cant reload.
Brap out a few shots then get hacked by Sombra? Good luck. You’re literally reduced to nothing but whatever you have left- and can’t manualy reload to defend yourself, and instead stuck waiting for each individual shot.
Seriously it’s a major weakness in most situations, not a strength.
Most heroes reload entire magazines in the time it takes him to recover a couple shots.
Letting doomfist have normal mechanics for his shotgun (no more single recharges, full reload) would be a buff.
Yeah it can be combo’ed in a grav. So can many other ultimates? Its also usually a waste to do a meteor strike in a grav, since it can be blocked easily. You’re probably better off to slam and uppercut into a grav, and save meteor for when you really need it.
For some unexplained reason Zenyatta is always free of judgement for years even if his kit is the most skilless in the entire OW cast except his primary fire.
it doesnt get in the way of his cc and mobility when he doesnt have to reload and gains clip ammo passively. he can shoot, use 2 abilities, and shoot some more, with no downtime because he doesnt have to stop and channel a reload.
sure, only having 4 shots is the drawback, but he has shotguns with crazy damage/shot
mercy players know the “unexplained reason” all too well …
yeah, not accounting for spread, burst firing or headshots. and that requires near perfect tracking, its not gonna happen very often.
the thing with doom is, once you get used to the timing and animation of the hero, he becomes virtually unstoppable. he needs longers cooldowns at LEAST.
he should excell in the 1v1 not be able to stay alive 1v3 take 2 and escape.
i often hear the arguement that he also has the most deaths average, but for the most part you’re taking atleast 1 squishy with you ¯\(ツ)/¯
having a winrate that high, for that long is pretty crazy.
somewhere more in line with the rest of the DPS cast, he’s an outlier.
the range between the lowest offence winrate (mcree) and the highest (sombra) is 4.46%
(excluding doomfist)
the difference between Doomfist (the highest) and Sombra (2nd highest) is 2.39%
Those are the stats, there’s an issue there. doomfist’s is just way better than anyone and is the 3rd most picked offence hero in GM. seriously. if you think that’s OK somethings goin on in there.
he’s the highest winrate of anyone that’s not a niche pick, he’s in 20% of games in high ranks.
Ball park what win percent rate would that be again?
Unless you look at recent stats
Then It’s 1.5- with doomfist being under a 56% win rate currently.
Something is going on.
A shift in meta
Much like how rein went from nothing, to basically appearing in literally every game- despite having received no real changes to himself.
Different heroes thrive in different metas.
Zen as of recent is both picked more, and wins more.
Sidenote: I absolutely love that we’re having this discussion on a hero, who when you get down to it, is literally winning 2~ more games out of 100 than you feel they should be- and we’re acting like this is some huge phenomenal issue.
There’s 4 reasons why Doomfist has a average pickrate and high winrate in GM:
Doomfist can easily deal with Briggite, while Tracer and Genji are can’t
Most of Doomfist bugs has been fixed, so most of the time he works.
Ana and Zen are the most played supports and Doomfist destroys them
There’s this team comp that has 3 supports and 3 tanks. The supports are probably Ana, Zen, Brigitte/lucio and the tanks are Reinhardt, Zarya, and Dva. Doomfist completely counters this comp
hes an outlier!!! jesus christ. when you consider than it’s an avareage of 2 out of 100, sure it seems like nothing, but a lot of games are happening, 2 moire out of 100 and he’s practically at a 60% winrate.
Excuse me I don’t appreciate the Zenyatta comments. He is one of, if not the hardest heroes in the game. And here is a Moira main telling me my kit is easy. Please.
oh nice, actual reasoning on why he’s good in higher ranks, nice! well put, but that would mean that comp is happening as much as doom is appearing, though, i doubt that’s actually the case, a winrate that good still is a cause for concern, he’s the embodiment of dive, craz burst, cc and mobility. and they released a whole character to counter dive, yet he counters her? isnt that a whole other issue in and of itself? in the lore orisa was created to counter Doomfist. and yet orisa isnt nearly as good as rein, there are other variables, but something has to change.
all you have to do is aim, and prioritise discord and communicate. literally. all it is is aim, everything else is just existing, and basic support tasks. your kit itself is one of the most simple ones in the game.
it all comes down to aim.
no where did i say he should have sombra’s winrate, a winrate he should have weould be more lke 52.5%, the average of all dps excluding doom himself (because he’s an outlier and thats how data works)
Easier said than done. Especially with projectiles. You are the easiest hero to kill, have no mobility so you have to have good positioning. You have to discord the right people, heal your flankers and use trans at the right time. All mercy has to do is hold m1’.