it can oneshot any 250 HP hero if they don’t have cooldowns
of course, there’s depth to it, but you just named everything ever other support has to do with your crutch as “projectiles” you can do better. and i’d speak on mercy’s behalf but it comes down to prioritization of the beam, and then regular support jobs.
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Zen got a nerf, literally because of one korean boi in the OWL. Zen is free of judgement because if they change him even a bit, it would absolutely break him. He has nothing except his aim to keep him alive.
Yes, ALL there is to him is aim. It’s really easy right? That explains why most good Zenyatta’s hardly have an accuracy of only about 30%
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If you don’t hit headshots, you’re basically doing nothing as Zen. He is a lot harder than you make him sound. Definitely one of the hardest heroes in the game to master.
of course, but aim is the major reason he’s considered difficult, yet his kit is very easy to execute effectively, harmony ob is obvious, discord a priority target, and get caught in the grav so u can press q and negate everything (unless ana has e)
he is simple, it’s mainly aim. i never said he was easy to play well, i said he has a simple kit.
in practice, mercy isnt all m1. same goes for zen not being all his orbs.
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Except he’s NOT going that way!!! Jesus Christ!!1!!one!!
He’s going down as his popularity goes up.
His recent stats have him at 55.X.
Add a couple, then round up, and he’s be at 60? Omg!
Add a couple to zen, round up, and he’d also be at sixty :o
I can play in fantasy land too.
Back in reality-
Doomfist is below 56% currently.
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Widowmaker is all about aim also, is she underpowered or balanced in the right hands ? You may want to ask those in high tiers.
p.s: I also forgot to mention the 350 HP monster he turns thanks to Brigitte, not even Winston can duel this guy in this form.
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Every supports kit is ‘easy’ then by your logic.
you just contradicted yourself, you keep stressing the unimportance of 2% yet it’s a big deal. i dont see how you cant see that.
there are a lot of variables effecting doomfist’s winrate i see that now cos of NiceGenji
there’s more to it than this aswell, orisa being overshadowed also opened up room for doomfist.
it’s not his fault he’s OP but he’s still the best and shouldnt be an outlier, buff orisa and make rein and orisa even, then you can counterpick doom without being a liability and switching off rein.
there are plenty of options i see now. not thanks to you, as you keep treating me as a lesser instead of properly trying to inform me.
I shouldn’t reply because this is so silly, but let me help you out anyways.
Widowmaker has a scope. What is a scope? It’s thing that zooms in and allows you to see heads better. Isn’t that just fantastic Cersei?
Secondly Widowmaker is a hitscan, her damage is not projectile based. Zenyatta’s is. You can not hit people with Zen not matter HOW good your aim is. Like I said JJonak’s accuracy on Zen is 30%, you can check this on Overbuff.
Finally, WIndowmaker has a thing called, grapple. Now what grapple does is let’s you get away from attackers or dive tanks, every 10 seconds. Now isn’t that just quacking crazy? Your “main” Moira, has a thing called “fade” that lets you easily dodge. Zen has nothing
So please think before, making ridiculous comparisons. Thanks ![:slight_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=5" ":slight_smile:")
300 HP, just like any other support
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it’s not really a ridiculous comparison, when it boils down, mechanically the only thing that seperates a good zen from a bad one is aim, and the same goes for widowmaker. there are going to be other variables, but the mahor factor is your ability to aim.
I don’t get what your point is. That Zen is easy? Ok so then what does that make Moira and Mercy? Brainless?
no, zenyatta is simple. not easy to play well, but has a simple kit.
you really threw it out of proportion in your initial response.
cersei was referencing zenyattas only sense of mechanics being aim, and you flipped out lmao
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It’s not his fault you feel hes op*
Doomfist seems out of whack mostly because of the meta shift. He’s largely remained the same the last year other than small changes and mostly fixes that main him actually function, yet somehow rose from f-tier.
Maybe if people’s idea of the “best team composition” wasn’t literally an entire setup that Doomfist counters, his stats wouldn’t seem as inflated. He’s clearly very strong against GOATs yet people still run it against him.
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You are mentioning ridiculous comparisons while bringing up scope as if magically has the ability to put your cursor on heads ? Have you played Widowmaker in a cosiderate amount like, ever ?
What can charged scope shots do if the person cannot aim for life ? The people you mention by bringing 30% accuracy are the same people who can’t aim as any other hero, that’s what I am telling you. Just because these said people can’t aim that doesn’t the heroes are completely balanced. The very fact that you bring people below GM as measure of full potential is a joke itself.
The same goes for 20 other characters in the roster.???
Is this a Doomfist discussion thread, or a thread about Zen?
a better fix would be “it’s not his fault he’s so strong in this meta”
both atm, someone be derailing
His kit is as simple as it gets, what exactly offends you ?
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The people is “jjonak” Go to Overbuff and look at his stats. I’m not going to have a discussion with you, because you have no idea what you’re talking about, if you think jjonak can’t aim as any other hero.