Interesting that discord was nerfed heavily and mercy’s dmg boost wasn’t touched at all.
So discord uptime is not okay….
But no diminishing returns on dmg boost?
Strange to me tons of supports were nerfed and mercy 1 of the highest win rate supports was untouched.
Seems like forum and top 500 streamer bias
Nobody’s cares about the other 95% of the player base
No one really cares because damage boost commits all of Mercy’s effects for 25% extra dmg to ONE person.
Zenyatta
Mercy
The problem is that this game operates under burst damage thresholds. Mercy boosting one person against everybody is often stronger than zen boosting everybody on a single person
Zenyatta large hitbox. Accuracy percentage average below 50%
Easily killable.
Orbs 100% accurate
Mercy
Healing beam %100 accurate
200dps with headshot.
Dmg boost with no cd %100 accurate
Incredibly hard to kill extreme mobility
Tied with lw for highest healing in the game.
Rez is best ability in the game. %100 accurate
How good do you have to be to outplay all that guaranteed value?
How good should someone have to be. How many hours a day should someone have to grind ow to outplay a mercy?
Winrate don’t mean anything and idk what ‘one of the highest’ means exactly or where you’ve even gotten that info
Also discord is not Zens main source of damage while blue beam is for mercy, so putting it on a resource or giving it more downtime than is already has wouldn’t work. It’s already insanely low damage output and dependent on someone else hitting their shots.
She also doesn’t need to be nerfed and ain’t over performing, sooo
For what tier of players? Mercy is massively over performing up to gm.
Please answer this question for me:
How mechanically gifted should someone have to be to outplay the passive value of mercy?
Plat? Diamond? Right now it’s high masters tbh
She’s not overperforming. I don’t have to answer those cuz she isn’t overperforming.
It’s not guaranteed value when your teammates have to hit their shots though. If your teammate has 30% accuracy, it be value 30% of the time.
So she’s countered by her team mates but not the enemy?
How can that be fun for the mercy ?
So it’s fair bc other people can miss their shots?
Wouldn’t if feel better to be rewarded for good gameplay?
Pretty much yes. Her teammates, and her own positioning/movement.
Ask the many, many Mercy mains. They find her very, very fun.
Yeah pretty much. The fact that Mercy can’t heal or damage while boosting that one teammate who will be missing shots… It’s very fair.
Zen
nearly 300dps with headshots (no discord)
removing 25% of the Tanbks HP bar for nearly the whole duration of the game
100% accurate 30 Hps healing with infinite range only LoS required
boop on meele +50% dmg
Teamfight turning ult/defensive ult to counter others
Secondary fire that can 1 clip every 200 and 225 hero( even 250 with discord involved)
pretty easy if u nutpick every upside without downsides
*needs to hit every of them. Everage Gm mercy has about 300 Dmg per 10mins
cant deal dmg while using and has no damage threat at all
with downsides if she uses a tech
source?
with a lot of counterplay
Rez forces you to overextend to stop in so many situations.
The threat of a Rez is just as bad as Rez. If lamp and suzu had duration increased Rez should have too
Also what mechanical skill should someone have to have to outplay a mercy
… Mercy damage boost doesn’t apply to an entire team.
She can’t do anything else while channeling it other thn GA. She can’t even contribute her own damage via gun like zen can and is restricted to 1 teammate.
It’s got plenty of drawbacks and already got nerfed recently, doesn’t need to be dumpstered.
there isnt any rank where she even has 51% WR…
no?
just have an eye on the corpse for some secs while doing other stuff isnt rly that hard
how u gonna outplay her?
You need a very high percentage of hit accuracy to outplay her. Without high enough accuracy you value pales in comparison.
The skill needed to outplay her is definatly more than diamond level and it’s near high masters level right now.
With mercy feeling somewhat underwhelming to for GM1 players. (Bc players can hit the most shots here)
So you lock hitscan only support… what level of skill should you have to have to outplay her?
Mercy needs a rework to get rid of the broken pocket. Make the hero take an ounce of skill removing rez for a different ability, but that would take actual effort to change.
Perhaps if they add more skill expression to the hero it will make her better at the higher tiers of gameplay and less oppressive below gm.
Shouldn’t this be something mercy mains want? They complain they can’t do enough in their gm games…. I can see that as a valid argument.
I’m not going to speak for all of us but Genuinely just want them to stop changing her. She’s fine. She’s not overperforming anywhere, and obviously from your posts you have more than just an issue with blue beam. You want her to be an entirely different hero.
Not going to happen.