If I disconnect and you take 50SR, then allow me to join a new game. Don’t only give me the option to Rejoin Game. I don’t want it, because it’s a waste of time to play a game you’ve already been penalized for simply because you DC’d for 40 seconds.
I won’t, and if I click it too fast by “mistake,” I’ll just leave, anyways.
Don’t take my SR for being DC’d for < 1 minute, and then expect me to be “nice” and finish the game. I’d rather go make tea.
Thank you.
although I disagree with your attitude, I have a “better” solution
DON’T LOSE SR if you rejoin. wait until the end of the match. If you win, you gain SR, if you lose, you lose 50 (i.e. there is a penalty for leaving)
but yes, there is 0 incentive to rejoin a match after you leave a game.
THIS. MUST. CHANGE.
98.6% of humanity would agree with my attitude, if they were in my position.
I agree with the idea that you should only lose the 50sr if you don’t return or if your team loses so you have a incentive to still try.
However to the OP. You would have a timed suspension anyway after leaving so you would not have the option to join a new comp game for a set amount of time. You would be having to wait it out regardless.
I am unsure if the suspension is lifted if you rejoin and finish the match however because I havn’t had a disconnect since this change went into effect so I have no experience to go on.
Adding an option other than rejoining the game would only decrease that amount of leavers that would come back, making the leaver problem worse.
Blizzard won’t pander to those that leave games on purpose. If it was an accident, or out of your control it’s very much in your best interest to rejoin the game, you never know when you’ll win.
That’s fine. At least let me play Arcade games. I don’t have to play competitive, but it locks you out of EVERYTHING!
That’s the point.
It’s not in my best interest to join the game if I have already lost 50 SR and won’t get anything for my time.
At that point, winning is not a concern of mine. I’ve already lost… 3x over.
I assume it’s done that way to encourage the player to rejoin. However as I said I agree that there needs to be an incentive to rejoin and still try to win. I am 100% ok with the idea that if you rejoin a game and win you don’t lose the 50SR.
However you should not be getting disconnected often enough that being locked out of everything is a problem. I have only disconnected once in the last 4 seasons and it was because of a power outage.
If you are getting disconnected often then there is likely an issue you want to address before playing comp again.
Whether or not it happens rarely or often is unrelated to what I’m talking about.
I DCed out of my game last night right after it started, so the game was cancelled and I took the immediate loss, even though I would’ve been able to get in less than 20 seconds later… But in my 10 min penalty, I was able to play ffa. I thought leaverbuster penalty was only for comp? Not sure why you couldn’t do arcae unless maybe its an additional penalty for leaving so much…
This is not a scarecrow tactic.
If you experience a problem 0.00001% of the time then why should resources be allocated to solving that issue. This is how I experience the leaver penalty because that is about how often I get a disconnect. If I see something maybe once a year it does not matter to me.
On the other hand if you are experiencing this as a problem then I can only assume that you are disconnecting much more often. If this is the case would you not think that solving the problem that is causing you to disconnect be more important?
I see more people disconnect then I myself have disconnected which means that players are playing with bad connections, hardware, and/or network issues. The way the system was changed was to encourage players to fix these issues and not join comp. The devs have even confirmed this.
So as I said that I agree with the change of not being punished if you rejoin and win. I am also implying that if you are disconnecting in the first place you need to take some personal responsibility for that. This is because in normal conditions disconnects should be very rare.
Is there a certain time where it still gives you the SR loss? I’ve had the unfortunate problem in a few matches where i’ve gottend DCed from Blizzard’s servers in a game and when I rejoined I haven’t noticed a 50 SR loss in any of the matches. I didn’t know if you rejoin the match if it doesn’t give you the SR loss or if i’ve just gotten lucky with it.
Blizzard and Overwatch are not my moral compass. My personal responsibility is on-point. My connection is fine. My hardware is fine. I’ve checked the Windows event logs. No other internet-connected services on my machine disconnected. No networking card issues (driver restarts, etc.).
No other devices in the house disconnected, and no other internet-connected applications disconnected (and no, my connection isn’t saturated - or even close - besides, this was between 2-4 AM or something).
Don’t talk to me as if I’m computer illiterate, when I basically do this 5 days a week at work. And, you’re completely missing the point with your diatribe…
I’m not even “complaining” about my connection (which is totally fine), or the fact that I lost SR.
I’m “complaining” about the fact that the game expects me to play for free and won’t even let me play Arcade after it’s taken 50 SR (until the match ends). I don’t play unless there is something to win or lose.
When you take the SR, the match is over for me - and helping the team win is really not something I’m interested in… Don’t ask me to rejoin. Doing so is not a courtesy. It’s a waste of time. I’m not stupid, and I’m not so ignorantly altruistic that I literally throw my time away just so someone else can feel good about pixels. Just let me queue for something else.
I pressed ALT-F4 and played a different game, instead.
The punishment had already been doled out, so there was NO REASON TO BLOCK ME FROM PLAYING OTHER GAME MODES - or even Competitive itself, frankly.
Ask me if I want to Rejoin (pop-up, or something). I click NO. And let me go about my merry business.
But I thought you didn’t lose any SR if you rejoined before the no penalty timer was up?
To clarify the official rules, you will NOT take a penalty if you rejoin within two minutes from the time when the system realizes you left, please note when this happens, it will look like the penalty still applies, HOWEVER, if you complete the match, the penalty will reverse and you will get your normal SR adjustment based on the result of the match.
However, if you take more than two minutes to return, OR if you leave and return three times, you are automatically penalized regardless of the match result. This is a rule to ensure abusive leavers don’t attempt to return to the match near its end in order to avoid any leaver penalties including suspensions.
As always if you are showing frequent signs of disconnections, PLEASE STOP PLAYING COMPETITIVE, and work to troubleshoot your connection problem.
If you’d managed to join back within 10 second, the game would’ve been canceled anyway.
I was only making a point that if you disconnect very rarely then you are wasting energy complaining about a penalty that you will rarely see. I did not imply that you were computer illiterate, I was only covering the potentiality that you were experiencing this problem often. If it is not the latter then my first point stands.
It makes sense now the way you described it that the devs want to encourage you to rejoin of you disconnected. This is why I also agree with the fact that the 50sr punishment should be lifted if you rejoin and win. However I do not see the devs removing the forced incentive to rejoin.
The reason why the punishments have gotten this harsh was because the leaver problem had effected player engagement. The leaver issue may or not not statistically be an actual issue however it has become a vocal one.
Leavers effect players experience so negatively that it overshadows all positive experiences and all other issues. The devs have conceded and said they would be increasing leaver punishments. What you are experiencing is the results of these changes. I understand that losing 50sr and having a suspension or having to wait for the game to end is not optimal, however it is encouraging people to fix their behaviour and or connection issues.
This has also allowed a fast track for players who do not do this to be banned from competative.
If you are altruistic like you say then in the face of this you should at least understand that you have to face the occasional inconvenience in order to help improve the experience of the player base as a whole.
This is correct. Once the 10-second warning timer starts, the match cancels. Now if you can reconnect before the Hero selection screen timer cancels, then you can rejoin without penalty.
I lost SR immediately. I was DC’d for < 40 seconds.
50 SR immediately. I actually rejoined the match immediately (< 1 minute after DC), and then checked it. The SR was gone, so I left the match and played another game when I realized I couldn’t do anything in game until the match was over.
What you’re saying is 100% false.
No one is experiencing frequent disconnects, and the topic isn’t even about the fact that I disconnected. I’m not sure why people keep coming in the thread and focusing on that “detail.”
If you are altruistic like you say
I never said I was altruistic. I’m not. I said
Doing so is not a courtesy. It’s a waste of time. I’m not stupid, and I’m not so ignorantly altruistic that I literally throw my time away just so someone else can feel good about pixels.
I play the game for my own entertainment. The experience of the player base as a whole really does not rank very high in my list of concerns… No offense.
If Blizzard cared that much about them, they would have given me a reason to get back in the game and help them, and not 10 reasons to log off and go play another game while they played a 5v6.
Disallowing me from re-queueing for competitive or playing other game modes is not that reason. This isn’t the only game on my PC, or in my residence.
Honestly if your leaving a competitive game you dont want back in and the penalties are enough that you aren’t going to do lightly. The game sucked why go back into that suck fest?
I myself have experienced disconnections in the past and have been penalized for taking too long, and have NOT been penalized when I quickly return (often verified by my teammates in that match). What I state is listed in the blog post for the premiere of season 2, Scott Mercer’s post detailing about the Competitive Leaver Rules, and an update where they increased the return time from 1 minute to 2 minutes. As such, unless something has changed that is undocumented and not to my knowledge, I would suggest that you fill out a bug report to report the anomaly.
The reason why myself, and other players, continue to remind other players about troubleshooting frequent disconnections is that I do not want to see you become penalized further. Whether your specific situation was a one-time only, or you have a history of disconnections, only you know that, but I do know that those that continue to disconnect frequently will eventually be season banned. I do not want to see that happen to anyone.