Delete Role Queue (+less confusing characters)

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Role Queue only came about because GOATS basically rendered 1/2 of the roster useless and nobody wanted DPS players. They whined and cried and what the result was, was 2/2/2.

On the surface 2/2/2 stays as an existing entity to carry the tank and support classes. If 2/2/2 didn’t exist, every match would be 5 DPS + 1 support, or 4 DPS+Hog/Ball (glorified DPS) + 1 support. Anyone who plays open queue now likely thinks this.

However, most support mains and tank mains stick to 2/2/2 because it ensures their duty is shared. OQ can quickly turn into a DPS fiesta with a solo support or solo tank, something players don’t want to do.

That said, GOAT variations are still wildly powerful in Open Queue, the issue is finding 6 players who will play it. But if you have it, it’s incredibly OP and renders the enemy team of DPS virtually useless. Many times they are forced to play a minimum of 2 tanks and 2 supports, essentially playing role queue at that point.

So while 2/2/2 appears to allow tank and support players to have balanced matches, the reality is it’s protecting DPS players from a return to GOATS and tank heavy comps, nullifying their DPS play, forcing more tank and support play from them.

Now I’m not saying the entire community and every rank reverts to GOATS if Role Queue is deleted, but what I am saying is that Role Queue exists to promote and protect the DPS class.

Too many DPS, and one team of all DPS gets diffed hard by the other team of all DPS, and half the DPS players have a bad experience. Too many tanks, and the DPS virtually get no value. Just the right amount of tanks and “helpless” squishies (supports) (2/2/2) and DPS only have to be better than 2 other DPS to carry a match.

It is simply ironic DPS players flood Open Queue to avoid RQ DPS queue times. They are the causation of it’s existence. They have become the causation of it’s brokenness.

Delete Role Queue and watch all the power return to the tank and support classes.

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Sure why not, it’s not like I could play any less.

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Swear I’m the only support main that exists that loves solo healing.

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Role queue was the first major bad decision made for this game. It wasnt even GOATS, that only existed in the pro scene, people in GM hated playing it so they didnt.

Role queue came after non-stop crying about the number of dps players, most matches started with like 4-5 dps instalocking, but things eventually sorted themselves out after a few lost fights… which is not exactly far from what we have now.

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In case you’re unaware, the devs balance this game around their precious E-Sport.

Role Queue came about to preserve and protect the DPS players who partook in this.

And it was quite common on ladder for the upper 15-20% of SR players.

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I enjoyed it because they never cried about getting a Zen because it was SOMETHING. Now these clowns feel entitled to more heals, for whatever reason. Support players enabling their baby rage has taught them zero discipline.

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The “reason” is because if the enemy tanks have an Ana pocketing 1 tank and a Bap pocketing the other while you have Zen pocketing one tank and Mercy on the other, it’s GGs EZ for the enemy.

It’s not entitlement. It’s giving your tanks an equal opportunity to not get brutalized and diffed so hard the team implodes.

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Nah, I do not pocket tanks as Zen. That is a waste of time. The goal is not sustain with Zen, you will just lose if you try.

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The way I see “pocketing” with Zen is discording the enemy your tank is bodying and orbing him for “x” amount of time permitted to orb.

It’s definitely both aspects of his kit, but an Ana or Bap is > Zen 10/10.

So again, it’s not about entitlement. It’s about giving your tanks a chance when the enemy’s tanks are super enabled by their comp.

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Lmao

People exaggerate OQ too much its laughable. My main mode is OQ and 5 or more dps is as rare as Goats with communication. Its not like supp / tank mains immediately leave game when RQ get removed, i say more - there are always 2 supps and at least 1 tank.

Its like say that smurfs are in every game, but you know, they arent

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Is this supposed to be advocating for role queue or getting rid of it? I’m getting mixed vibes.

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According to the devs 2/2/2 Role Q development was unrelated to GOATS and started before GOATS even was a thing.

Also why would you need to remove it?
I personally don’t understand how anyone can enjoy playing Open Q, but it doesn’t hurt me that people have at least the choice to do so.

So why are people so obsessed with removing Role Q to try and force people back into a mode they don’t want to play?

I’d honestly rather quit than ever going back to Open Q :joy:

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What role do you main?

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Tank

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They work very slow, so that story is quite believable. However, I still do not trust them. It was because of GOATS. The Bodhisattva has spoken.

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Again, Role Queue has turned into a haven for tank and support players as they don’t have to worry if they’ll be the only one on their role.

It’s actually crippling them from dominating Open Queue, but they’re scared of what will happen there.

If Role Queue didn’t exist, all these players who main tank and support would wind up playing them in Open Queue. The DPS+Hog bonanza we all hate would cease to exist.

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Like I said:
Now that I know how much better the game feels with Role Q I am not willing to ever go back.

Also there is still the option to play Open Q for you if you think that it gives you any advantage :woman_shrugging:

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Nah. Keep it. OW has been way more fun without fighting 5 people for DPS picks.

Tank play is more fun cause you actually have two supports and a co-tank to help you.

Support play is more fun cause you’re promised a second support who can heal players you can’t at the time.

All around it was a positive change for the health of the game. Now queue times? Another can of worms. But I believe most people don’t mind longer queues for better quality games.

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100% and anyone who think this isnt happening… is low IQ

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It’s 2021 and still the same misinformation…

According to the devs, RQ was in development before Goats was even a thing.

Also, in general, RQ shouldn’t and isn’t going anywhere… Not until we have an actually functional LFG system and the game is 5v5.

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