I do agree that Deflect is fine as is.
But I do think that the visual feedback Genji gets from deflect can sometimes be inaccurate, sometimes a projectile will trigger deflect’s visual feedback without actually deflecting the projectile.
I don’t want the hitbox buffed, I just want the visual feedback to actually be accurate for the Genji’s side.
Not necessarily.
Stuff like Hack provide much more.
Deflect’s potential is higher, but immediate value is lower.
I would not mind a buff to give him some wiggle room; however, I would want a nerf to the sides and have it not effect behind him. It is really annoying to try and thread the needle just to kill your own teammate. However, at the same time, yeah, the deflect is probably overnerfed.
No buffs or nerfs needed
I like how the guy nopes out when he realized that no one agreed.
I also enjoy the “if you played Genji” excuse, as if no one has ever played or currently plays Genji.
Statistically, Genji is very balanced. He has a lot of synergy with strong characters (Ana in particular) and works well in many comps, plus people enjoy playing him, meaning he still has a high pickrate.
But if his deflect hitbox was broken, surely he wouldn’t be picked so often, seen in almost every non GOATS game, etc.
(I also agree with a poster here, the deflect FPV needs a bit of tweaking. But it doesn’t need any buffs)
I don’t think there’s a way to have it not work behind him.
Hitboxes are well, boxes. So if one side is effected the others will be as well, even if it was paper thin both sides would still be effected.
The only reason Dvas defense matrix doesnt do this for example, is because her hitbox is big enough to cover behind her so the hitbox can’t be accessed from behind.
But I’d rather just leave deflect alone and not touch it at all.
I’m getting more and more convinced that you are just a troll.
genji als already pretty strong imho, why buff him again?
i think the hitbox is okay. i have no sympathy for ppl that wanna play with all those giant hitboxes. i wish every hitbox was even smaller, especially those who are not hitscan (but with increased aoe if needed)
I am not a coder or whatever; however, I believe some other games have put a different hit-box that just cancels the effect if they are shot from behind, hypothetically. Not entirely sure. But something like that would be more ideal. But yeah, it is fine as is. I just believe it could be better to use and better to have it used against you.
Genji is only not being played because of brigitte + tank heavy comps being meta. Genji is still very strong. There is nothing that needs buffing on his deflect. I mean if anything melee attacks should actually hurt genji while he’s deflecting but I doubt you’d want to get your hero nerfed XD
The whole point of saying “arguably” is that you concede it will not be unanimous and that some people will have a different opinion. Immediately trying to argue doesn’t contradict my point.
The hitbox was adjusted to fit the animation that was a known issue by the devs, it wasn’t nerfed, it was fixed.
Though implementing such a feature would cause horrible inconsistencies, it would be very stange to say the least. Sometimes the game would register the front as the back due to odd collision mechanics for example.
That’s also a reason why melee attacks are the size of the users entire screen, if it wasn’t it would be horribly inconsistent to use.
It’s pretty much not worth the bugs and overall inconsistent nature it would cause to be added.
Jeff previously acknowledged the deflect hitbox as fine before the nerf, and said it was as it was for good reason.
They went back and changed it after, it weakened the ability overall, so it was a nerf.
It was also listed under “Hero Changes” and not “Bug Fixes”
Lol what, it’s still too big. I almost never shoot Genji unless it’s directly behind, because deflect is still noob mode.
It’s a hero change yeah, but it addressed an issue that the devs stated was an animation issue.
Bug maybe not, but not a balance change either. It was a problem not with his coding or kit but with the way animation and hitboxes functioned, and it was fixed not balanced.
Genji doesn’t need any buffs at this point.
Never said Genji needed any buffs, I think he’s perfectly balanced and shouldn’t be changed.
It did weaken the ability, so technically it was a nerf, or at least it can be viewed as such.
because genji is under powered right? /s
It was big enough to defend almost his entire team in a grav. It was too big