With Hanzo, Zarya, Mei and maybe Ana she does.
DM wasn’t unbalanced in the slightest. If the threat of DM is there then destroy the mech and then your team can ult, it’s that simple.
Just seems this community wants to complain about anything that they think is ‘OP’. The funniest part is Deflect with Genji is worse than DM cause it protects him from melee as well but no one is complaining…
The Nerf is just a further attempt to weaken GOATS. If you notice every patch has nerfs to at least one of the GOATS heros.
We have had Zen, Lucio, D.Va (2ice now?), and Brig.
They don’t want to touch Rein and Zarya as they are key tank picks and decently balanced. However, I think blizz will find that they will need to completely cripple these heros outside this comp to completely make it irrelevant.
Lucio suffered pretty harshly, Brig suffered, D.Va is looking to be there with them. You know who’s next…
You don’t understand how pick rates affect win-rates.
Anyone with a high pick rate and a 50% win rate is a target for balance changes.
When you’ve figured out why, we can continue this conversation.
Right now the only tank with an abnormally high pick rate is Rein, the rest are as balanced as ever in pick rate.
Rein has competition problems.
Mainly, he doesn’t really have any. Orisa sort of compete with him for his spot, but she’s too immobile for more aggressive comps to ever use.
Winston’s more aggressive, but doesn’t have nearly enough barrier health to even touch him unless you build a comp that Rein wouldn’t work in anyway.
We need more tanks that will compete with Rein in his niche. Same with Orisa.
Really, we just need more tanks in general.
I can understand that to an extent. ITs hard to balance between the two. Problem with dva is she is very team reliant, even in mics its hard to get people to call out their ults.
Oh look, it’s this argument again.
Rein just needs a second competitor because the first-ish one wasn’t enough of a competitor, but the only versatile off-tank? Nerfs are the only option! (If we added a competitor they’d just use both!)
(And to pre-empt: Hog’s doing better than D.Va in ladder where Bunker is meta and Zarya’s doing better is in E-sports where GOATS is meta)
Being overly team-reliant is worst fate, that can happen to any hero.
It’s literally requiring your whole team to focus their efforts on you, just so you are not useless. They got their own things to do, though.
Know this a bit too well 
D.Va is still extremely strong. If you feel like she didn’t deserve the nerf you might not have a proper understanding of how you’re supposed to play her.
Did you have a point with this? Of course hog works better in bunker. His hook was designed for strats like bunker.
If the bastion has half a brain, and hog hooks anything, that hook target will die.
Except… this is precisely what they’re doing?
Just because you guys don’t like the changes doesn’t mean it’s not an attempt toward balance.
Have you guys seriously not used D.Va or seen Defense Matrix in action? The distance it covered was extraordinarily long, had a short cooldown (to accompany it’s short uptime), and could shut down a ton of ults (especially ones that could take long to buildup, such as Zarya’s).
Is Moira’s healing spray “extraordinarily long” then? That’s also 15 meters.
So Ana ?
Oh wait, she’s been ignored for a year despite being the most played hero in the entire game, including “6 DPS meta” QP.
Rein has more competition than D.Va ever had. With Winston and Orisa both viable alternatives as main tank, plus Hammond.
D.Va has who ? Zarya, who so far mostly works with Rein. And ? Roadhog isn’t a tank in the slightest, he’s just riding the horse.
We have NO character competing with D.Va in her niche of mobile peel and bruise.
Saying that D.Va is OP but Rein has competition problems is being blind at best.
Meanwhile we’re nerfing D.Va, who sees less play than Roadhog on Diamond+ ladder, and is vastly beaten in the OWL by Zarya (who gets buff after buff after buff).
Clearly, there’s no logic to this nerf, just like there was no logic to the last ones.
They still thinks she has 400 armor
And just like you didn’t read or address any of the points in my post. Your entire post can be summed up as, “nuh uh!”.
shes like a wet paper bag at this point.
What points in your posts ?
That Orisa doesn’t really compete with Rein ? Certainly explains how she replaced him completely in Master/GM.
That Winston doesn’t compete with him ? He does. He literally replaces him in different comps.
The fact that we have 14 DPS competing for 2 spots doesn’t mean they’re all flankers or snipers, but they still compete.
Right now, off-tanks are what we desperately need. We don’t need another main tank, we’ve had 2 already.
Maybe it’s just me, but in all the time I’ve had with my Off-Tank in scrims, I’ve never had him need to use DM on Max-Range before…
Normally he’ll react and jump on them to guarantee he eats it, then burst them down in >1.5seconds.
Maybe that’s an elo thing, I dunno.
See, my issue with this- is it’s half correct and half false.
DM was and still IS unbalanced, it’s the only defensive ability in the game that can do what it does.
Does it have weaknesses? Of course.
But it’s potential value has always been so high that, the higher you go- the more D.Va you get.
It has been this way for years, up until recently.
That being said, you totally can swap to pressure a D.Va or even break her mech to ult. But the fact of the matter is, it’s difficult because D.Va’s not alone. She’s in a group of 6. She’s not going to LET you Demech her, and DM is a massive threat on it’s own because of the sheer amount of stuff she can block.
It’s infinite for 2 seconds.
Maybe, I don’t know… Just never found matrix that overpowered. It’s a strong ability but there is counter play to it.
Deflect can do the same thing DM does plus it works on Rein’s hammer.
So? The enemy team is a group of six and needs to force D.Va’s hand or surprise her.
I cannot even figure out how an ability on almost no cooldown that can eat anything except beams, can be made useless…
If you flash it like you’re supposed to, you wont notice a difference…