Comp backfill queue

[MonkaS-21704]

Make it an option to backfill in comp queue, so it’s optional and not forced because that might piss some people off. Incentivize it by giving the backfill a lootbox/lootboxes for every time he/she/whom backfills and no SR loss. To combat people abusing it and never losing SR make it so that to be eligible for backfill you need at least ten games after placements in comp, and then you are eligible for one backfill every 5th game.

[Kaedi-11739]

The problem with Backfill is that is creates a controlled change in the state of the match. Leavers are a “uncontrolled” change. When you are assigned to a Competitive match, that is suppose to be a fair and balanced match in terms of presented skill rating statistically. By adding a new player from the original 12 players, that creates a situation where that original pairing is lost and therefore can be perceived as an unfair change for the team without the leaver (especially if the team that had the leaver/backfill wins that match).

This is why there will never be a backfill for Competitive.

[Gazzor-2340]

But the matchmaker is fairly bad and 90% of games are stomps one way or the other, so the whole fair match thing is kind of out of the window anyway…

Just grab a random guy in skirmish queue at similar SR. It’s not going to make “that” huge of a difference…

[dragonbreath-1104]

Just b/c you win the match with a backfill means you had an unfair advantage?!?!

This is just a horrible explanation and the reasoning is bizarre. This cannot be an “unfair” change b/c the “unfair” change occurred when someone left the game smh.

So, making a game 6v6 is now an unfair advantage ladies and gentlemen. You heard it first here lmao

This is why someone from tech support should not comment on content creation. Let those guys comment and if they can actually come up with a good reason, then so be it. But we all know there is not one. Unless it’s just laziness on creating the system to do it, which is more likely than anything else.

[Kaedi-11739]

My title does not dictate what I can and cannot post to. Remember, I don’t rep Blizzard, but this is one of several questions I have asked as a MVP from Blizzard and I understand their logic behind this design.

Disagree if you want, but this is the intended design of the game.

[Gazzor-2340]

Thanks. At least we got an “official” answer now.

I’m 2 for, 2 against this season, so I’m kinda “meh” about it.

Friend of mine had leavers on his team in 5 of his 10 placement games. He gave up comp after that…

Actually, forgot the 2 pre 1 minute cancel game leavers this season as well. This season has been worse for leavers than last 3 seasons combined. Still, small sample size and all that.

[Comixfan-6222]

I’ve been saying this for a long time now.

Competitive needs backfill

Having a competitive mode without anything in place to help a team recover from a leaver/disconnect is an absolute travesty. Blizzard needs to add backfill to competitive. If someone leaves or disconnects from a match, then someone else can load in to take their place. Have a “reserves bench” system in place for if the disconnected player reconnects (thus allowing for them to avoid the leaver penalty) and give them the option to rejoin the match at the start of a new map. Make competitive ba…

It exists in other game modes. Add it to Comp and it would solve a lot of issues!

[Comixfan-6222]

@Kaedi-11739

The problem with Backfill is that is creates a controlled change in the state of the match. Leavers are a “uncontrolled” change.

Both are still changes that the other players in the match have no control over.

@Kaedi-11739

When you are assigned to a Competitive match, that is suppose to be a fair and balanced match in terms of presented skill rating statistically. By adding a new player from the original 12 players, that creates a situation where that original pairing is lost

When someone leaves a Competitive match that is supposed to be a fair and balanced match, it’s no longer a fair and balanced match. If the leaver is on your team, then the enemy team now has an advantage and vice versa.

By adding a new player from the original 12, that creates a situation where that original pairing may be lost, but it allows the team that had no control over one of their teammates leaving to have a fair and balanced chance.

@Kaedi-11739

and therefore can be perceived as an unfair change for the team without the leaver (especially if the team that had the leaver/backfill wins that match).

So you’re saying because it would be unfair to the team without the leaver it’s okay to be unfair to the team with the leaver.

How ridiculous.

@Kaedi-11739

This is why there will never be a backfill for Competitive.

Then Competitive will remain the joke of a mode it currently is.

[Comixfan-6222]

@Kaedi-11739

My title does not dictate what I can and cannot post to. Remember, I don’t rep Blizzard, but this is one of several questions I have asked as a MVP from Blizzard and I understand their logic behind this design.

Disagree if you want, but this is the intended design of the game.

So it’s intended to be unfair to the team with the leaver despite them having absolutely no control over it, rather than add a new player via backfill to restore both teams to a fair composition.

So long as this mentality remains, Competitive will remain unsalvageable.

[predat0r-2569]

@Comixfan-6222

It exists in other game modes. Add it to Comp and it would solve a lot of issues!

Whereas I might not agree with much of what Comixfan says in other threads, I can see the logic behind back-fill for those games with leavers as being a valid option.

The trick is:

• allowing it to be opt in
• perhaps reduced penalties for losing if any
• I’m not sure if there should be reduced gains for wins, full SR for wins would likely incentivize people for opting into back-fill.

[Comixfan-6222]

@predat0r-2569

@Comixfan-6222

It exists in other game modes. Add it to Comp and it would solve a lot of issues!

Whereas I might not agree with much of what Comixfan says in other threads, I can see the logic behind back-fill for those games with leavers as being a valid option.

The trick is:

• allowing it to be opt in
• perhaps reduced penalties for losing if any
• I’m not sure if there should be reduced gains for wins, full SR for wins would likely incentivize people for opting into back-fill.

Yes, as I mentioned in my original post on the topic that I linked, it would absolutely need to be opt in because not everyone would want to join a Competitive match already in progress.

But leaving one team to be one or more players down is just an unacceptable stance for Blizzard to take, especially when there is more they can do to ensure that every Competitive match remains fair and balanced.