You clearly stated that I was the person at fault when these comments can and often are popped up with no prior reasoning nor context - they’re just thrown into the chat with no care to how it would affect the person mentally, but just wanting a rise or reaction to see where the wind takes it.
If you are being harassed or slurred at (?) by a tank or dps for ‘not healing’ when they’re off in the f*‘in’ distance trying to 1v5 like they’re Hercules or some sh*, you are not the one at fault. They are.
When I try to explain that they’re too far into the enemy lines for me to help them but all I get is the r-slur in response? They’re the one at fault.
When I pop into voice chat and someone says something sexist just because I’ve got a high pitched voice? They’re at fault.
Who actually keeps seeing this stuff and why? In my few thousand hours I could count the times someone has told another player to off themselves with my hands and same thing with everything else bundled together from racism to sexism. Everyone else seems to have the exact same experience where they never really see or hear any of this anywhere. Not now and not before. So it just makes me wonder about these 2 questions on whether some players are picking their nose for a nosebleed
Since there has to be leniency regarding any typ of disruptive behavior systems it’s based around the biggest segments rather than these individuals. Hence why it is in it’s current state, in which it still does work if those players’ behavior is actually behavior and not these rare singular moments. They do get banned, just not instantly, as they shouldn’t be
Rather than abusive chat reporting, they should work on the disruptive gameplay reports instead. Because that’s something never really happens to players no matter how much they troll in their matches
It could be that times have changed since the early days of online gaming and sentiment is moving away from views such as yours.
I’m sorry. While I advocate for mute and ignore people, you’re ignoring the obvious underlying reason. Why exactly are we muting these people? It could be they are just being rude or in other words, toxic to others.
Being rude is different than toxic to an extent. Toxic is more extreme but is still rude. Just don’t be a jerk to others and understand your teasing may not be taken in the manner you hope for in an online environment with total strangers where your intent may be obfuscated by things like lack of body language.
Toxic behavior definition refers to a person whose behavior and ongoing actions cause harm to other people by physical or mental means
rude implies ignorance of or indifference to good form; it may suggest intentional discourtesy. rude behavior. rough is likely to stress lack of polish and gentleness
Those are very dissimilar definitions
Because I don’t want/need to listen to their tirades in my personal time
Let me know when you solve this problem at its core. You’ll likely get a Nobel Prize
Sure, I’ve flamed at people - or I’ve said something that people have assumed was flaming when it was a joke.
(IE: I’ve said ‘hey, dps! don’t interrupt the support 1v1!!’ when a genji or smth kills me when I’m a Mercy fighting the other Mercy. (USUALLY it’s taken as a joke, as it should’ve been))
But, I have never used slurs or anything beyond idle flaming. Light flaming. (Like saying ‘why play ball/x hero tho’ or ‘pharah mercy?? sadge’)
There’s nothing more to divulge when I’m sometimes responded with such terrible and unwarranted comments as the examples I’ve mentioned.
I’ve also never flamed my teammates, unless of they’ve made comments like ‘no healing’ in match chat. To which, all I do is call them out for being dumb game-sense wise. The example listed up there: why are you trying to 1v5 the enemy.
I’m not perfect, but at least I’m not racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist or et cetera. I’m not going to stoop that low just because I’m upset. And people who DO should be punished accordingly.
Seem pretty dang similar to me. They don’t mean the exact same thing, which is why I said to an extent.
Regardless, you’re not addressing the underlying point my guy. People do not agree with your take. It isn’t just “main stream media”, your view has increasingly become less popular with time. No one back in 2005 would be having this conversation even because a lot of these behaviors were simply accepted back then. People are no longer just accepting it.
It was rhetorical… we mute them obviously because they are being jerks lmao
I’m willing to bet if we reviewed every single minute of your gameplay we’d find behavior that you yourself would claim as entirely unprovoked and unacceptable.
The difference being you’d try to justify your actions (as everyone does)
And I don’t agree with theirs. And we’re allowed to disagree with each other, no?
Just making sure it was clear
Okay but a lot of behavior that people are labeling as toxic is disingenuous relative to people who are being subjected to actual toxicity, racism, etc.
If you want to step up against censorship then do it on platforms where it actually matters - where communication is the defining feature (e.g.: twitter, news outlets). In most cases in-game chat is only an optional addon to support gameplay - communication is very far from being the defining feature of the software.
In-game chat isn’t in the same category as online media and news outlets. It isn’t the place for world-defining political discussions. Its purpose is to support gameplay but in reality it is used by antisocial morons 90% of the time - this is why I think that reducing it to a common denominator is fine. Some multiplayer video games that don’t benefit from communication don’t even have chat - would you call that absolute censorship? A good ping system (which is a domain-specific communications system) could be a complete functional replacement for chat even in a game like Overwatch. Those who want to socialize (a tiny minority of the playerbase) or play the game at a more serious level (with perma-teams and voice chat) can always use external software.
Scale and severity. You can be acting in a toxic manner that isn’t as bad as the dude angrily shouting the N word. Doesn’t mean your own behavior isn’t also toxic (to be clear, this isn’t meaning you specifically). I agree with you that toxicity shouldn’t be tolerated, but I think toxic encompasses more than what you think it does as far as what is or isn’t acceptable behavior.
Mute, report if you think it’s bad enough, move on. That’s how I try to handle myself and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that to be blunt.
