Both are different, Clothes fall more under “utility” and Games into “entertainment”.
Because of its nature Games tend to require more design and imagination than clothes so … I would put them a bit ahead of clothes.
Can Videogames be considered art? Can chess be considered sport?
I agree. There’s no argument. Video games are of course an artistic medium.
They comprise all the art forms experienced in a movie while their interactivity provides a layer of immersion not present in any other medium, and with that deeper immersion comes deeper emotional connections to the characters.
How frequently do you see a movie as moving as The Last Of Us or Life Is Strange?
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Since there can be video games without any art, video games are not art. HOWEVER, they can nonetheless have an artistic value and be art. In other words, the artistic value of a game is not intrinsic but extrinsic to them.
Of course, most games have an artistic value to them, but that doesn’t make video games (fundamentally speaking) art. Conversely, because video games are not intrinsically nor inherently art, it still doesn’t invalidate the artistic value of games that do contain and use art.
For example, let’s think of how houses are made. They can be plain, boring and only made for utility, while others are true pieces of art by themselves merely from their choice of architecture. Still, a beautiful house is still a house.
Some will stretch the definition of art to make video games inherently art by stating that: “[…] setting up game design elements and rules requires creativity. Therefore, video games are art.” However, by that same logic, this very sentence is art, because it required creativity to choose words and write it. The same goes for politicians when they create legislative rules which, although it requires them some effort, we can all agree that they’re not art.
tl;dr: Strictly speaking, games are not art, but can have an artistic value to them nonetheless. Same goes for architecture, clothing, transportation, filming, cooking (especially in bakery), and many other things.
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Cloth is not art. You can’t draw any emotional correlation to clothing, although it can have a visual or sexual appeal. Games, on the other hand, are indeed an art form, as they can affect our emotions in a very direct way, very similarly to the way movies do.
Is Shadow of the Colossus not pure art? Unrelated but yeah video games can be art
Definitely, especially with vr there are a lot of games specifically just for observing someones creativity passion and craftsmanship.
Play Nier Automata and see for yourself.
It depends on the type of game. I consider games like Journey, Shadow of the Colossus, Abzu, Limbo, Inside, and Hellblade to be art. Games that focus 100% on the experience and what the devs want you to feel playing them.
To that extent, games that offer very little in dialogue (like the aforementioned Shadow of the Colossus or Journey) I also feel are great representations of games as art as they make you think on how to progress as opposed to telling you.
This is exactly what I told this person. I said I’ve never cried just by looking at a piece of cloth, whereas some songs, movies, games and songs affected me very deeply. This statement annoyed her lol.
I don’t know, even if things like fashion design are technically art, I would personally put them below music/literature/cinema. No offenses to anyone who is into this stuff.
Outside of western AAA gaming companies, yes video games are art.
As I always say… Anyone who argues whether something can be considered art or not should familiarize themselves with Dadaism & the work of Marcel Duchamp.
That’s like asking “can movies be considered art”.
Yes. Games can be art.
Further, games often require a lot of art (graphics, animations, music, sculpting 3d models, landscapes, writing scripts, etc).
What do you consider a western aaa gaming company?
Art is subjective to each individuals in my opinion. There’s no such thing as a valid “art”, everything can be an art of itself.
You are the sole person able to define what truly defines art by your own standards.
I consider video games by itself a definition of art, terrible games included. Good games will show themselves in various landscape and designs, bad games will show the effort of the art at times despite low quality. Not all arts are equals.
You’re free to have your own definition on the matter.
video games are a convergence of multiple disciplines, several of which are art.
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I don’t really think games like FIFA or New Super Luigi Bros WiiU 3 Deluxe have a lot of artistic expression, as their main purpose is to push copies.
They’re commercial. Some might call them kitsch.
Technically utilizing artistic elements, but as far as actual artistic expression goes, they fall flat.
A lot of the smaller companies are the ones that really cone to mind when thinking of effective art in video games (Reigns, Out There, Stanley Parable, Cultist Simulator, Papers Please, Riven, A Dark Room, Binding of Isaac, Frostpunk, Lisa, etc…)
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Depends what you consider art. But personally I would say:
Images are a form of art.
Videos are an extension of images (“motion pictures”).
Most video games could easily be considered “interactive videos”.
So sure, why not?
Clothing is meaningful, my ethnic dress is everything to me. When i wear it I feel like myself, without it i feel lost and unattached. Video games come and go, it means very little to me. But my national dress, the clothes that are passed down from my grandparents to my parents to me are emotional and brings tears to my eyes when i think about it. Video games do not do that to me.
bruh, there has never been a better time for high concept, artistic games. Both because games are easier to make and distribute now, and technological advancements that allow for more unique expression than 16 bit could allow. If anything the late nineties to late 2000s were probably the worst period in terms of soulless, entirely-for-profit games, with every generic movie having a game tie-in, an endless sea of generic clones, etc.
If you exclusively pick your games off the Steam front page or at Wal-mart you’d probably think gaming is more commercialized and less artistic but that couldn’t be further from the truth.
And even then, theres nothing saying expensive commercial games can’t be artistic; even your own example of an “artistic” game is one of the most expensive games ever made. If you think Super Geraldo World 3 was made solely for the sake of it and not also, if not primarily, for profit you’re lying to yourself.