Buffs Mercy's rez during valk

These are, I promise you, reasonable ideas and not broken ones like Mercy was during the moth meta with instant double resurrections.

Currency valkyrie “enhances all of mercy’s abilities” expect for Resurrect.

I think ONE of these ideas should be implemented IF Mercy is NOT going to be receiving a heal buff to 55-60hps

1. Resurrect’s cast time is reduced to 1.15 second from 1.75

  • This is a nice buff to Resurrect in Valkyrie and makes more potentially dangerous but game changing resurrections more viable, adding to Mercy’s impact on the fight in Valkyrie.
  • It wouldn’t break mercy’s resurrection stats either so it wouldn’t cause too much of an influx of players being resurrected.

2. Resurrect is refreshed upon activating Valkyrie

  • You could argue that taking away the cast time in Valkyrie takes away the skill of executing them.
  • Refreshing Resurrect when in Valkyrie would see potentially more players being resurrected but the skill / timing / game sense is still there with the 1.75 cast time and still being CC cancelable
  • Thus, it’s more rewarding to get them off, raising Mercy’s skill ceiling but at the same time allowing Mercy to have more impact

3. Resurrect gains CC invulnerability when used in Valkyrie

  • I think this is the best one out of them all.
  • At least during Valkyrie, I don’t want Resurrect to be cancelled by a 3 seconds boop cool down by Lucio or being pushed away by wreaking ball.
  • This is a good change because it means mercy has to be killed for Resurrect to cancel

4. Resurrect has an increased radius to be cast. From 5m to 8m in Valkyrie

Which buff to resurrect do you think would be the best? :slight_smile:

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As an actual Mercy player (300+ hours) I don’t think buffing rez is a good idea.

It is actually the strongest part of her kit as is, buffing it would make her way too strong. Getting a rez is incredibly strong and can be game changing and she can do it a lot.

Mercy is incredibly hard to balance and honestly buffing rez would make her too strong, even the ones you suggested. I personally don’t think she is a terrible spot right now, but she still isn’t good, nor is she particularly engaging to play. However, that is the curse of her kit and I doubt the devs would ever like to change her, especially since they don’t like having a lot of healing and Mercy can pump out a lot of consistent healing.

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But it’s not a buff to Rez in general. It’s only in Valk, where all her abilities are enhanced besides Rez-at least arguably. Some say it’s not others say it is.

I’m in the camp of it isn’t enhanced, and I like the refresh idea since that’s been something I wanted to see happen for a while.

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Well it would still make her too strong since in valk she already has chain 60hps healing and a chain 30% dmg boost. Also, rezing is a lot easier in valk because of the movement. I just don’t believe it’s the part of the kit that needs changing since it is her strongest part.

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No

No rez buff please! Delete it at best

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Moira does 65 hps while bap does 62.5 hps…and that’s not counting orb/regenerative burst…also nobody even likes the braindead chains

I think rez should be removed :slight_smile: or nerfed :slight_smile: not because it isn’t balanced but because it’s an unhealthy part of her kit that holds the rest of it back

60 hps with the removal of rez would not be perfect but it would be my good enough :slight_smile:

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exactly. Resurrect is still an ability that should be in some way enhanced during Valkyrie - but not like to broken levels at the moth meta.

However I think Rez buff should ONLY happen if they insist on leaving her leaving at 50hps so she has something to compensate for it because other than that, she has nothing else to offer except damage boosting / pocketing a pharra which is currently her only viable use

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Buff her healing and/or boost
Make activating her ult no longer cancel beam
Done :woman_shrugging: Dont ever touch Rez.

She actually used to have knockback immunity while rezzing in Valk and it was removed when they allowed boops to affect flying targets. It’s incredibly frustrating.

That being said, I’d much rather a 60 HPS buff to her base kit then to buff rez at all. Rez already has increased range, move speed, and constant regen during Valk to “enhance it”. Give it boop resistance again and give her 60 HPS back please.

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yeah I agree in my personal preference they should give rez cc / knock back immunity. Thats the buff I want out of three.

And yes please please please hopefully 60hps if possible. It’s not like everyone has been asking for it for 2 years… :frowning:

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The problem with that, is we are working under the premises that Rez ‘must’ work with Valk to be practical.

So basically that ridiculous cast time, super long cooldown and ineffectiveness to be actually useful in team fights because you become a sitting duck in the middle of a fire zone while you are casting it - all of that becomes a non-issue, “because you should use it with your ult”.

We might as well remove current Rez and just make it back into an ult again - since we are already ‘reserve’ it to use with ults.

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Girl at least make it so if mercy pulls off the rez an aoe heal activates for like 2 hp or something

anything

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Agreed, it’s frustrating that a Lucio can boop you out of it with a short *** cooldown and then your 30 second cooldown gets canceled -_-

Yes!!! It’d be so healthy for the game and the support role :frowning:

I never said that? I personally use rez all of the time outside of Valk, I’m just saying Valk DOES enhance it technically. I don’t want mass rez back, but if they want to move rez to solely be usable once during Valk with like a .8 second cast time I’m fine with that.

I like idea 1. and 4.
I think that the people claiming that a rez buff would make her too strong, dont understand the game.
Mercy has still 50 Hps, she still cant be used as a mainhealer. She has still not a defensive ultimate, she still cant counter blade, Grav.
She wouldnt replace Lucio or Zen at all.
She just feels a bit more powerful and her ult a bit more game-changing

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I think this might be the healthiest thing for the game. Mercy can get her 60hps since Rez isn’t used as a cool down and is only available when activating Valkyrie

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exactly! Thank god you get it! If mercy does not get the 60hps main healing buff she needs, rez IMO really does need to be buffed in valkyrie in some way or form but not to broken levels as it was in the moth meta

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Yeah if they want to make her an actual off healer (like how she is performing rn) they need to make Valk more defensive and double down on her utility (rez and damage boost) so you can warrant playing her over Lucio.

I see two routes for Mercy:

  1. Main Healer Mercy- 60 HPS

  2. Off Healer Mercy- 50 HPS, damage boost also buffs speed or fire rate, Valk is 8-10 seconds longer and heals more, rez cast time reduced

One is clearly easier than the other :stuck_out_tongue:

For fun: Angels Embrace - Cocoons Mercy with a pretty floating orb shield of feathers that protects her when her ultimate is active or casting resurrect. Effect is similar to armor with 3 reduction (old armor nerf). Hurray!

exactly! Because 50hps and damage boost right now is not cutting it if she is an off healer which she is classed as right now. More like pocket bot than anything else

As an off healer lucio will always outclass her and as a main healer so will ana / moira and bap

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Ah, my mistake.

I’ll be happy enough with a much shorter baseline cast time and cooldown, because at present Rez can hardly serve as a game changer/team fight tipping.

Current problems with rez:
1, You can’t rez fast enough before your tanks got gun down because you’re unable to help keeping them up while rezzing.
2, You’re over-exposing yourself needlessly due to the cast time, making you an easy target to get picked off before your rez finished casting - or worse, you did finished casting, but you’re gunned down and leaving your team 1 healer less.
3, Wobbling my head around or turning my screen in an endless spin to prevent getting headshot while rezzing is not what i call ‘creative and interesting game mechanics’.
4, What is the purpose of 30 sec cooldown? Informing me that i should save it only when needed - like trying to save losing team fights, which in practice i can’t actually fly in and rez because that might actually get me killed instead?

What actual purpose do Rez fills in now? Time saver after winning team fights so you shaved off that extra few seconds your tank/dps needs to run?

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