Can we actually buff Widowmaker?
I feel like she is really unreliable how hard she is to play.
Some of the reasons she needs a buff:
- Sombra LITERALLY existing and not being nerfed despite most players ask for her nerfs because she is soooo unfun to play against.
- Kiriko and Mei can contest her on certain distances. Like I don’t really know how is this fair. Imagine Doomfist or Venture not having a shield but they need to play in close range. Widowmaker needs to play far away and yet she is for some reason forced to be played near the fight where she is at her disadvantage.
- Everyone has movement abilities and can close the distance to her pretty easily.
- Tanks have shields and can block her damage.
Widow is sooooo hard to play but she is soooo weak it is not even worth playing her.
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she can get the rest of her hp back and that’s it
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That is more a reason to rework Sombra than to buff Widowmaker.
Well, not a good Widowmaker.
Honestly pretty true. It’s the Pharah effect where everyone puts the responsibility on someone else instead of trying to address problems they themselves are observing.
Stop shooting at my shield as Widowmaker. That’s not how you play the hero.
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Widow is weird. Because where I agree that the sombra counter is pretty unfair and the hardest counter in the game. But I also really really love widow and her one shot and hope it remains that way forever. So a part of me loves her one shot and also holds a lot of value in it I kind of am okay with the extremely hard counter. Maybe buff hp but with heroes like kiriko and mei having that breakpoint where it is, is a good thing. So for the sake of her one shot remaining in game I think all and all widow is in a good place as is.
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The only excuse I accept for Sombra being the way she is, is because of Widowmaker. Your hero is not fun and is down there with Hog and Sombra in terms of player experience. No, she should not get buffed.
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No. She literally does not have a counter and is by far the most oppressive hero in the game.
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Maybe she can get more health and some sort of self sustain!
aside from sombra, any character being able to contest widow is balanced out by widow being able to instantaneously delete one of their allies from across the entire map. everything widow has and lacks is balanced around this.
it sux u gotta deal w/ sombra but on some maps theres noone else you can pick has the upper hand lol. i dont think its a healthy matchup but no other character in the game outside of ball can be swapped to for an advantage against that character.
i think widow has just gotta be one of those t500-only heroes because if she was actually strong i dont even know what i would do. especially in games where a duo w/ a high rank-spread can put the strong player on widow and the weak player on an easy character. theres so little that a normal player can do in that situation.
Remove her 1s and do what you want to her, otherwise she’s balanced with the HP she has.
So ask yourselves: do you want another Hanzo or do you want to keep the 1-shot?
Since most Widows want to keep the 1-shot, her health is fine as-is or could use lowering even more. Lukewarm take, but Widow has ruined more games than Sombra ever could (either a bad one on your team or a good one on theirs).
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Shes fine as is, in terms of balance at least but to be honest, her design in itself is a little flawed, either shes completely broken and needs a full comp to deny her value in some maps, often by mirroring her, or she is pretty useless when there is not enough long ranged angles.
Now, i suppose situational characters are fine but i wonder when the character is too strong in the situations they apply though, shes barely in the line imo, though i feel like some of her maps are a little too dumb and whenever/if ever they get reworked, she might need a rework herself.
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She needs a nerf, not buffs.
If you have a brig on your team you are unkillable and sombras useless
You are on the most oppressive hero in the game complaining someone can contest you, if they peak you, you can literally 1 shot them.
You can 1shot people across the map with a hitscan primary fire
So every single hero in the game needs buffs by this logic, I have never heard something more delusional
She’s really not hard, and she is definitely not weak. Maybe physically yes her health bar is a little lower, but it’s literally what ppl had pre health buffs.
Calling sombra unfun while asking for buffs on the most miserable hero to play against in the game is so weird
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Yup. Sombra is easy to play against - stick together as a team and don’t play widow. Or if you’re really going to insist on playing her, get a kiri to hard pocket you.
This is really just a standard “My hero needs buffs because she’s not universally OP” post.
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The Genji Main phenomenon.
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I think they could try to give her the old nerf of hanzo, where she can oneshot some characters but others more brawlers and slow like mei or reaper not. And then buff her mine range to fish those pesky Sombra and improve her machine so she can defend herself against those characters.
Remove oneshot and rework
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give her aimbot and everygame is the battle of the widows
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Ok give Hanzo one shot back then we can talk about your 
suggestion
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I think the best option would be to rework all the dive and flank characters so they can’t just kill for free. Not just Widow, they get free kills on Ashe, many supports, and several dps that don’t have escape abilities.
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Revert her falloff range buff and make it 40-60 meters and then buff her ultimate.
As compensation for the falloff nerf make her ultimate remove her falloff…entirely. This would allow her to use walls more offensively and give her threatening range and power. She needs more oomf to her ultimate and I think removing the falloff would allow for very skillful playmaking and offensive usage. If an enemy is just outside of your range, you can ult and then try to kill them. There could be so many ways in which her ultimate could be used advantageously this way other than just…wall hacks.
We can talk health buffs after we see how this shifts her presence in games, but she needs this weakness due to her potential to be untouchable when her HP is that of a standard hero. But I would rather nerf high mobility before touching her HP.